New Caregiver Onboarding
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Video 30 Day Session: Foundations Presentation
Video 30 Day Session: Foundations Presentation
Video 30 Day Session: Foundations Presentation
Transcript of video:
hello and welcome my name is sha C
Madison I'm the foster care manager for
the
S the objectives for this training is to
understand the flow of a child
protective case get a greater
understanding of the reasons for
involvement what it means and how to
prepare for accepting a new
placement the roles and responsibilities
of individuals you may interact with
throughout the life of a
case and to go into details and provide
you better insight into what we call
parenting
time dcyf Central intake receives more
than 20,000 reports of suspected child
abuse and neglect annually as well as
referrals for children in need of
services reports of abuse and neglect
concerns are confidential and can be
made
Anonymous there are three specific
options when you make a report of
concern you can identify yourself as
disclosure
allowed disclosure not allowed and
Anonymous the difference between those
three options is with regards to your
continued activity within the assessment
and the family's ability to know who
called for assessment
allowed below is the liit the most Comm
of ass for disclosure not allowed when
an assessment is called that information
the family but place it on file chart
goes over the typical would only be
aware of we're going to take a closer
look at these if we proceeded with a
court case we may start an inhome case
the third option is to be
100% and not leave any if we complete an
assessment and we determine that there
are sa concern understand if you call in
a report anonymously you will not be
notified anything that happens during
that assessment for disclosure allowed
disclosure not
allowed we
you updated and share with conclusion of
that assessment think about where things
in your house
belong your first night
together if you do not get those two
pieces of paper on the first night be
sure
to you will hear from a roadmap to
reification
special the following individuals are
ones in which you will have frequent
contact
with when a child comes into State
custody we do our
best going to
court you are typically
Video 30 Day Session: Realistic Expectations when Fostering
Video 30 Day Session: Realistic Expectations when Fostering
Video 30 Day Session: Realistic Expectations when Fostering
Transcript of video:
thank you for choosing foster care let's
talk a little bit about the realistic
expectations with
fostering fostering is when you choose
to bring a child into your home to love
and to care for that child as if it's
one of your
own when you receive your first call
some clarifying questions that would be
important to ask would be why is this
child coming into
care what is this child's background
does this child have any mental or
physical struggles that are known where
does this child go to school how is this
child's overall Behavior how does this
child deal with
animals does this child have
any
allergies on the first day that your
child is with
you you
may try to do a couple of things make
your home an inviting space for the
child this is because your child is
entering a brand new environment for the
very first time be open and friendly to
your child it is important that they
feel comfortable towards you and your
family set up simple rules and
expectations fostering is a very
important and needed job and yes it is a
job you might be ready but you'll never
be fully prepared you're adding a new
temporary member to your family someone
you know almost nothing about and
someone who knows nothing about you for
many of you the child you are taking in
is not like your own child not like your
nieces or nephews and maybe not even
like the kiddos that your children are
friends with the biggest difference
between the children you are familiar
with in your foster child is trauma
every child entering foster care suffers
from trauma let me say that again every
child entering foster care suffers from
trauma now that being said how can you
take a child into your home and include
them as an equal part of your
family by setting realistic expectations
realistic expectations of yourself of
your family and of your new your new
placement are you planning to take in an
infant even an infant straight from the
hospital thank you for saying yes you
are needed and we appreciate you please
understand that that baby has already
suffered trauma some signs of this may
be feeding problems sleeping problems
issues with being able to self soothe or
allowing you to help soothe them the
need for noise and motion and the need
for quiet are still the list goes on
if the baby has struggled with drugs and
alcohol your infant's physical condition
is not likely to be well it is important
to handle the your Foster baby with love
and care like you would your very own
biological
child are you planning on taking a
toddler into your home thank you for
saying yes you are needed and we
appreciate you trauma in toddlers can be
challenging especially if the toddler
cannot yet tell you how they feel which
initially may be a struggle they will
want familiarity and and same not new
and different meet them where they are
do not expect much from them at first if
they have been potty trained they may
regress if they've slept through the
night they probably won't if they were a
good eater they may be holding out it's
okay be calm offer Grace and give time
generally things will turn around when
you your kiddo starts to feel safe with
you are you planning on taking a
pre-teen into your
home thank you for saying yes you are
needed and we appreciate you Preen come
with their own Heavy Hearts Let's help
them feel lighter meet these kiddos
where they are offer support and
understanding do not judge these kiddos
have been through through more than you
will ever know
they will not be thankful or
appreciative to be in your home they
will want their normal or whatever
version of that they feel comfortable
with success with these kids starts with
meeting them in a common ground set the
rules and expectations slowly and within
their current reach do not overexp do
not overreach their abilities keep it
simple feed them their favorite foods
don't wash their favorite stuffy let
them keep the smell of home whatever
that was for them with them them don't
strip them of their comfort and in time
that will
come are you planning on taking a
teenager into your home thank you for
saying
yes we appreciate you there are not
enough families like
yours teens are a little more tricky
until you get to know them and then they
trust you like pre-teens they will not
thank you or appreciate you for being
their new home they will be upset
they are old enough to understand more
of what's going on and have been taken
from what they know teens will need a
lot of snacks and not always healthy
ones they will want space so it's
important
to decide what that looks like in your
home they will want to maintain friends
from before they came to you that is
important for
them and if said friends are part of
their healthy a part of a healthy
relationship it shouldn't be a problem
decide your ground rules but listen to
their thoughts on them open
communication will help let them decide
the expectations that they can and will
be able to stick
to a friend of mine only takes teens she
suggests a few different things if she
knows that they are coming she may look
them up on social media see if she can
find some things that they like and add
them to the bedroom that they will be in
she leaves activities in their room such
as a sket pad and pencils an adult
coloring book and markers and fidget
toys when they arrive she gives them a
quick tour of her home and where their
room is she does this right away with
the cpsw she shows the teens where the
snacks are that they can have whenever
they'd
like she has the teen sit with the
assessment worker and herself and go
over a few things it is then that it is
discussed who the teen is able to
communicate with my friend then switches
out the teen's phone for one on her
phone plan this is for safety she is not
taking the phone without replacing it
with one that they can use all important
numbers are added to the phone the cpsws
number the Casa's number any therapists
the after hours number and her own phone
number she believes that teens should be
part of their case planning and gives
them every opportunity to do that she
does have some hard non-negotiable rules
those rules are that she controls any
and all meds and that they go in a safe
she dispenses the meds daily no
cigarettes Vapes or pot in the house
safety sweeps can happen at her
discretion if she finds it she destroys
it everything else is negotiable she
gives her teens a lot of freedom to be
voices in their own
cases be prepared to build some bridges
and not put the focus on putting up
barriers or being right it's not about
that there will be enough places that
there will be power struggles do not
make connecting with your Foster kiddo a
power struggle please for their success
set your expectations where your new
friend can meet them successfully they
have been through a lot they need you to
be their cheerleader they need you to
root them on to build trust and to make
them feel safe special and
important
never speak negatively about biological
parents when children are anywhere
around you they don't need your opinion
about their parents always keep the
comments about biological families
positive or at a minimum
neutral almost all children who enter
the foster care system will struggle
with a few of the same things transition
stand out as the hardest change is
difficult different is scary reassure
Children of the plan give them time and
countdown many children won't know how
to
play they won't know how to play with
toys you'll need to show them you'll
need to sit with them and play with them
teach them to use their imagination
safely sit and read to them our
11-year-old came to us and no one had
ever sat with her and read her a book
ever before she came into our home newly
placed foster children will struggle to
follow a
routine
that's okay be
patient it will come stay specific and
consistent a little at a
time if you are stressed out can you
remember what you need to do probably
not you may forget important things you
may overreact how do you think your
Foster kiddo
feels don't have those expectations of
your foster child they are stressed to
the max they can't remember all the new
things the rules the expectations the
changes and the feelings that are going
on around them it's too much all at once
kiddos joining your
family will struggle with boundaries
generally speaking the younger ones will
want all of your everything all of your
time all of your attention and all of
your love again you will need to meet
them where they are and find ways to
help them feel safe and secure while
teaching space and teaching appropriate
boundaries with any kiddos quick a quick
snack can be a great reset something
simple like a banana or an applesauce
pouch can quickly deescalate and change
the
focus let's touch based on
consequences you now have a new
temporary family member you don't like
some of the behaviors or choices that
they make and you think it's time for
consequences to be put into place well
what does that look like for a kiddo
with trauma it won't look like it does
for your own kiddo timeouts may not work
at first they will fight you on them
they don't trust you yet it's important
to remember that each child is an
individual what works for one child in
care will not work for all children in
care again meet them where they are
Maybe teach instead of time out maybe
take space instead of
separate there will be realistic house
rules that need to be followed those are
important our biggest one in our home is
if you hit you sit that's a given
because everyone deserves to always feel
safe all of the children we still have
at home are either adopted or in the
process of being adopted not one of them
has the same set of expectations not
even the twins
same basic rules yes we have the same
basic rules for all but the expectations
are different for each kiddo based on
where they are able to be
successful there is no such thing as
fair fair is not
equal everyone will need something
different to be and something different
to feel good about themselves success
breeds
self-esteem we want our kiddos to always
know they are loved safe important and
special each child will come into your
home with their own needs in their own
love language when you have your own
children you have about eight or nine
months to prepare for them when you take
in a foster child regardless of their
age you don't have much time to prepare
for them mentally or emotionally you may
have things
ready but it will not be enough until
you learn your foster
child be
prepared to be frustrated nervous
excited and angry plan to be exhausted
surprised and even in love however
please understand that this is a loss
for this kiddo even if you are providing
them with more or better than they had
it's still a loss of family a loss of
what they're used to and a loss of what
they know we had a kiddo who literally
destroyed his bedroom every single night
or early every morning we would wake up
daily to all of the clothes and all of
the dresser drawers dumped out on the
floor all of the mattresses off the beds
and made into slides from the bed frame
to the
floor we had four children in the same
room at the time every day he was so
proud of himself about how he decorated
the room he did it intentionally he
wanted us to be mad and to tell him that
we were mad at him it was annoying for
sure especially after the 10th day but
instead of telling him we were mad we
had to help he had to help put it back
together the right way every morning
when the rest of the kids would go down
to the family room to play or watch TV
he and he and I would stay back and pick
it all up just like Groundhog Day the
same thing every single day then finally
it wasn't fun anymore he wanted us to be
mad he wanted us to tell them we were
mad he wanted us to raise our voices we
didn't he figured it out we were
consistent in the consequence without
ever telling him anything besides that
we would go downstairs until he helped
pick it up looking back I think he was
looking for the one-on-one time he
didn't care that he was missing out on
the toys he wanted to be heard he wanted
to feel important this was just his
crazy way of showing
it ask for help it doesn't mean you
can't do it it doesn't mean the child is
the wrong fit for your family it means
that you're human and you need a hand
please understand that chaos happens
this will impact your family however
impact isn't negative it's just
different as soon as a new and soon a
new normal will come it may take up to
six weeks but it will happen just be
patient a couple of helpful hints that
may help you set yourself up for your
success would be plan ahead for
meals ask for
help when we have a lot of kiddos in our
home we only allow them to each do one
sport at a time
make time for yourself and make time for
yourself with your partner your children
may need you more make time to connect
with just your
children allow your foster children to
call you whatever they feel comfortable
with as long as it's
important we generally don't call
ourselves anything specific when we
welcome a new placement younger kiddos
tend to call us mom and dad because
we're called that by the other kiddos in
our home this does not take away from
their parents we are momed out of the
house we are momed out of this family
their mom and dad will have these names
and for their mom and dad the names are
associated with
feelings for us it's a title our name of
being called Mom and Dad by our foster
kiddos is not a feeling it's strictly a
title it holds no emotion it is a way
for our foster kiddos to feel less
different and more like the rest of the
family we have been called Auntie and
Uncle as well a few teens that we have
had called us by our first names at home
but when we were out and about we were
referred to as Mom and Dad as long as
it's appropriate let the kiddos
decide please plan to commit to your
placement nothing happens overnight
nothing gets easier in the next 3 or 4
days plan to drive your Foster kiddos to
school to daycare the
doctors try to go to the court hearings
that you are permitted to go to just
keep in mind that you have to remain
quiet unless the judge asks you to speak
you may also be asked to leave the
courtroom as
well it can feel intimidating to go to
court but it's also where you where you
will get the most information it doesn't
hurt to say hello to the biological
parents when you're there either the
connection is good for the
children you do not have to plan to take
B take your Foster kiddos to visits
though you do not have to supervise
visits however you may be asked to
supervise phone calls if you're asked to
supervise phone calls with a younger
kiddo set up an activity where they're
sitting down ask the parents to read
them a story or see what toys you may
have in common maybe the child and the
parent can do a puzzle together
virtually maybe it's play
maybe it's
coloring playing dinosaurs was a big hit
for one of our kiddos we would set the
iPad up for
him and his mom and we would keep a few
dinosaurs specific just for his calls
with Mom and they would play dinosaurs
together just the two of
them I've never met a parent who's
working on their plan who does not love
their
child parents are usually working with
the tools that they know their tools are
just different maybe their tools are
less effective maybe their tools are L
less safe maybe the parents are just
less equipped but never once has it been
because they have less love for their
child thank you for choosing to open
your home and to become a foster
family
Video 30 Day Session: Working with Bio Families
Video 30 Day Session: Working with Bio Families
Video 30 Day Session: Working with Bio Families
Transcript of video:
hi I'm Laura nice to meet you I am actually in California today and I'm so
sorry I couldn't be with you today at the conference but I'm excited to chat with you and share with you some tips
and ideas and ways to work with your Foster children's biological family so
first a little bit about me I am a Therapeutic Foster home so that means I take in kids who have a higher level of
need due to Behavioral or emotional concerns I'm not just a foster parent
though I also mentor and work directly with Foster families all over the world
I create content online on social media I maybe you've seen some of my videos um
but I also have one-on-one conversations with Foster families all of the time so
I can support and help brainstorm with them and today I'll be talking and brainstorming with you so throughout my
lesson I will be talking to you but also showing clips of reenactments and scripts to use with parents and children
when working through specific situations um it's just me doing the reenactment I'm not an actor so um please keep that
in mind but there's no kids no parents involved it's just me providing some
ideas and things to try so specifically I'm going to be talking about why shared parenting matters and how you can work
directly with with the family to help increase the chances of a safe reunification then I'll talk about those
very first moments and first interactions which are really important to setting the tone a professional
Rapport and open communication I'm going to also talk through ways that you can keep a connection strong between parent
and child even if there's limited to no contact and I'm also going to talk about
just some common maybe disagreements or uncomfortable situations and how to navigate them and at the very end I'm
going to be answering some of your specific questions to hopefully give you some very practical and tangible advice
that you can put into action tomorrow okay so why does this matter why are we
spending the time talking about it today and why is this so critical that you consider and have an open mind about a
relationship and shared parenting with the child's biological family for one
the parent may have a lot of insightful and helpful information to share about the child right so not every situation
and family Dynamic is one where the parent is not engaged in the child's
everyday life so at the very beginning it is so important that we open that
conversation just to learn about the child what do they like dislike how do their routines work um for their
favorite food is there a tradition in your home that you should be mindful of
cultural and religious considerations just at the beginning a relationship with the parent can help answer a lot of
the those questions and I'm actually including something in your goodie bag at the conference it's a list of
potential topics to cover with the parent things to talk about at the beginning maybe in an icebreaker call
just to get this the conversation started and when you do that it also shows your respect or your openness to
collaboration this topic between of of a relationship between foster parent and biop parent has been heavily researched
so we know for a fact that having these relationshipss can decrease the number
of conflicts in the future it can help put the child at ease when they see the adults working together nicely they will
trust you more quickly respect you more quickly um you know cuz their mom is respecting you and having these um you
know civil conversations working together teamwork so the the child will more naturally trust you and feel safe
in your home it will also put the child at ease and help them you know not be as
conflicted in their loyal loyalties when they see that everyone is working together they're not going to worry
about missing mom and loving mom but also appreciating or enjoying your
cooking or your bedroom or the toys you're offering so the child is already you know their anxiety will reduce you
may not have as many intense behaviors when everyone is working together nicely because they're not worried about it
they're not stressing about what are they going to think or what should I say um it kind of puts everyone more at ease
okay so let's talk about those first initial moments during an icebreaker session or your first phone call with
the biop parent maybe the biop parent and the child are going to connect it's been a you know the child's just been
removed and so um they're going to have their first chat and you are also going
to be um talking with them during an icebreaker session with your caseworker
and these are so important because this is the chance for you to explain who you are set the tone for the relationship
get to know you know everyone involved and and start a relationship so I'm
going to show you a how I would do an introduction in one of these meetings and give you some things to say and
considerations for the for these moments hi everyone thank you nice to meet you
all and Tanya it's great to meet you so I'm Laura um I've been a foster parent for several years I live with my husband
he couldn't be here Chris is his name he couldn't be here today he says Hi um and it's just your children in my in our
home um we we don't have bio kids no adopted kids and we actually specialize
in toddlers And elementary school kids it's who we primarily Foster so we have
you know all the toys and games homework stations I think I have finally figured
out third grade math and um you know we have food and snacks and things that
usually Elementary age kids will love um but I look forward to talking to you more and learning more about your kids
and and helping them in EAS in this transition um I am here to help I'm a part of the
team so Tanya if you need anything please feel free to reach out also if there's any concerns I do hope you'll
you know bring those up and we can talk through them and again um you know I'm part of the team and I I really hope the
kids can return home soon after those first conversations you as the foster
parent can have a lot of power in the relationship and so I only say this very
directly because it's important to think about your role and what you are managing you know I know you have the
child here who maybe misses their parent or is afraid of their parent they have
trauma right we're seeing those behaviors those trauma responses in our home we're now maybe hearing about some
of the things that they encountered or experienced you're also going to you know your 100 appointments in the first
month so there's a lot to manage but I want to just take a pause in that you do
do have a lot of control over the relationship and so it's really up to you in many cases of course every
situation is different in many cases you can dictate how open or shut those doors
are in communication now of course there may be core orders that limit how much
contact that happens but I only say this and want to pause on this moment because
we have control and we have our own Comforts but we also do have to compartmentalize a little and think
about what is best for the child and their family and in many cases when a child is on the path to
reunification having that relationship will help encourage that reunification to occur it
will help in all of those ways I previously talked about so I just want to make sure we're all on the same page
is you can open those doors as much as you want if you feel that calls and
video calls from your home between the parent and the child might be beneficial start to think about it and explore that
but first i'm going to kind of give you some examples and ways that you can as a par as a foster parent help that bonding
experience and help keep the parent and child connected regardless of how much
contact there is so here are some examples yes I'm wondering if it's at
all possible at some point to get a picture of Tanya or the family so I can put it up at the house or even just
print for Sam to have um in his room I I know you miss mom so much here why don't
we draw her a picture and I'll save it so next time we see her we can give it to her so what is your favorite memory
with mom is there anything you did that was super fun yeah going to the beach I was
thinking we could create like a memory book I got this cute little notebook and we could decorate Pages or cut out
pictures from a magazine to um illustrate a favorite memory so then if
you're ever missing mom we we can open the memory book and talk about some of your favorite things together okay and
later today we have that appointment remember you're getting your braids done
cool so I packed some recent um art projects that Sam has done and I also
packed a jump rope he really wants to learn how to jump rope and so if you want it's in there if you want to teach
him so Sam is still pretty resistant to the visits he's saying each time he doesn't want to go I'm wondering if
there is a counselor or a coach that could help at the visits at least for a few sessions just to kind of help them
Bond and connect and put him more at ease hey I'm so glad you could come to
the game today how's it going good it's been a really good week Sam got an A on
his spelling test yep so and he's been he's super excited that you're here for his game today
you look so awesome okay let me take a picture for your mom and I'll send it to
her you want to call mom to say good night tonight sure okay let me get her on the
phone hey Tanya yeah Sam is just getting to bed we're going to read here in a minute um but he wanted to say good
night yeah I did want to let you know that Sam has been struggling at school
yeahum just you know acting out in class disrupting talking so the teacher did
call and let me know but I wanted to let you know too um in case you wanted to talk to him about it or we could uh
maybe schedule a conference with the teacher for all of us to talk okay I want to let you know I also
included in your goodie bag a full list of these kind of brainstorm of ideas of
way to keep the connection between parent and child so look in your goodie bag for that full list I do want to call
out an important Nuance as well so sometimes you may have a child who fears
their parents is super triggered by them who has expressed very outwardly that
they are mad and don't want to talk about their parent I want to see them all of that so we will need to kind of
adjust the way that we're presenting and incorporating the family into our home
based on how the child is responding and reacting so we would never want to for
example display family photos on the mantle If the child in our care is saying I hate my mom I never want to see
her again so always talk to your therapist Loop in the professional team let them know what's going on but I just
want to kind of add that little caveat that we will always need to Center the child and think about their needs
through all of this visits are such an incredible place to keep a connection
alive to support the parent and Foster a relationship and so I want to walk
through how we could prepare for visit now now it's important to note that your case worker may want the parent to
provide all the supplies the snacks food you know whatever the kid will need
during the visit maybe toys and activities but it's okay for us to also
ask if we can provide special items to help with bonding um and so I want to
give you some examples let's go ahead and pack a bag together preparing for a visit can be really important part of
being a foster parent and help building that connection ction not just with you and the parent but also between the
child and the parent so I like to still bring a few things definitely ask the
caseworker of course um and these are really just going to be bonding activities toys or like special things
if we're outside I usually will use a backpack um just because maybe they're their park and walking around um but if
they're inside it is a visitation center um I will bring like a little bin and I like kinds that have holes so then the
parent and child can can easily see what's in here first I usually include the child and say what would you like to
bring to your visits this week any special toys anything you want to show your Dad or Mom like what do you want to
put in so I usually get their input I always send a visit Journal this is a
great opportunity to record Milestones ask questions remind parents of upcoming
needs or appointments or things that are going on in the kids life so if you know they have a big spelling test tomorrow
you could put it in here and the the parent can show their excitement or encouragement um don't buy any Journal
that is super pricey sometimes these get lost I also um you know kind of have an
open mind if I don't hear from the parent or they're not using it I will still continue to put in small little
updates so start with the visit Journal other things you can include are just items you're giving so like
schoolwork um photos that you've taken I recommend um getting a photo
subscription like through chatbooks it's very affordable and you can easily print right from your phone and you get photos
every month so you'll always have fresh photos for the parent and for your lifebook I also include sensory
activities that can be fun uh for Imaginary play with their parent but also can be stress relieving so like
Play-Doh and um try to like keep things a little organized in the bin so it's not like a big mess for older kids you
can always pack home homework and that is a great thing for a parent to do with their child they can stay up with um how
they're doing in school they can also show that they are in tune with the educational needs of their child and you
know homework needs to get done so pack the homework and see what happens it's always like a good thing to
try also include like a game that's more of a group activity like picture Shades
cuz then that can reach a lot of different ages it's a time to be a little silly and goofy and laugh
together I will Al also pack sometimes like hair salon supplies or um things to paint
nails you know just try to think about things that you would do with your parent and things you would do to bond
or connect and those are the types of things I include I used to you know do my mother's hair and put makeup on her
and it was a memory a fond memory I still remember that today so I think through that and then also don't forget
any type of comfort items so this will be very specific to the child but if there's a certain item that is their
like Comfort blankie or um like a stuffed animal something or even a
sensory toy Che toy uh if they're stressed out um make sure you include those too this is a good place to start
it's easy to carry and they can put it in the corner if they don't want it or
if they're really not into it you can leave it in the car and I always leave it up to the parent and I'll you know
collaborate with them do you want me to bring these types of things or no um I
will still bring like homework and journaling though just because um I do
want to be able to communicate with them and oftentimes homework is excessive in the evening and it it needs to get done
for outdoor there's a lot of opportunity to connect and play and you know share in that together so things like you know
bubbles or ball I might pack and I change it up and again collaborate with
the parent um you know jump ropes or even games to play like tossing I love that um you
know just think about things that again you like to do as a kid things you guys do in your house and ways that you can
encourage fun and laughter and play you could also bring chalk or even larger
items again with worker approval but riding a bike or a scooter you know so
that parents don't miss these important Milestone moments and can contribute to these these big moments in a child's
life life for example when they learn to shoot hoops or ride a bike without training meels yes there are Logistics
yes this is not easy but again it's setting everyone up for Success it's showing that you are committed and you
want to you know provide opportunities to the parents and don't want to take from
them and you know that you're a part of the team and that you're willing to go the extra mile that's going to be
meaningful and will help establish and develop your relationship with the parent now of course as with everything
in child welfare things do not always play out as perfectly as um we learn in
our training or what I'm even talking about today so I do want to talk through some concerns and issues that may arise
and give you some tools and practical things you can do in those moments so generally you might have disagreements
in how everyone is parenting they may have an expectation of what they want you to do and how you to respond or take
care of their child and you may have a different opinion whenever you know you enter into a new relationship try to wipe the Slate clean
even after problems and disagreements I try to wipe a slake clean and I try to ground myself in what is happening in
front of me there is a crisis a family has been severed and yes things have
occurred problems have happened but as foster parents we do need to remember
that the goal for most cases is a safe reunification and we must believe
with that that changes can occur that circumstances can change that is the point of the case plan parents can get
help they can go to rehab they can get anger management go to therapy all of those things can happen and
circumstances do change and so I try to compartmentalize a little of my feelings
or anger and that I can think clearly on how to you know be professional okay so
the first thing that might come up is just disagreements and parenting and so it's it's important that we document
what's what's happening what the disagreement has been about what the concern has been and um let the casework
or know so they can potentially intervene or help mediate the situation or pick a side and say we're going to do
it this way or this way I encourage you you know to keep an open mind try to be
empathetic put yourself in their shoes and also be aware of cultural differences and maybe that's where it's
coming from and so pause a minute step back and kind of look at the bigger
picture before starting to resolve the conflict here are some things to do in
the moment if an issue occurs okay I hear you so I will type up your concerns
and submit it to the casew worker so we're all on the same page and then we can come up with a plan to address
it okay I appreciate the feedback I will work on that thank
you okay I totally hear you that you would like her hair a certain way I am more than willing to try TR um but it
might be helpful if you could provide a picture or at the next visit we could do
it together and you could show me exactly what you want or if you're open I'm happy to take her to the salon and
see if I can get permission for you to come with us and we can talk it all through then okay I'm going to have to
end the visit I know that that might make you super angry but I'm not comfortable continuing until we have
inwriting what the rules are and so I will let the caseworker know that I cancel the visit and once we have a plan
and writing then we can
reconvene okay so why don't we pause this discussion let's change the topic
to something more positive and lighter and let's um put a pin on it and talk about it at our next team meeting okay
this is not a great time let's focus on having fun and you know I brought some chalk I I was wondering if you know Sam
do you want to show your mom how you could do the Hopscotch another common concern I hear
is privacy foster parents myself included like to maintain their own privacy it's their life they don't want
their phone number their address out there sometimes these things happens and sometimes you will want to share that
but on your terms so here are some things you can do to set yourself up for Success so you don't have to worry as
much the first thing that you can do is set up a Google Voice number if you're not familiar what that is it is free
it's a phone number you pick the phone number and essentially it forwards calls to your personal cell so then you don't
have to give away your personal cell and also Google keeps track of text messages and calls and time so it is a way to
document everything in a more like clean and organized way because it's not included with your personal cell phone
usage I also recommend to lock down your social media change your name use a
initial or in a nickname change your profile pict picture to be not your face and your cover photos and make it
private if you don't want people involved or getting to know important details or intimate details then make
your social medias private and lastly establish the boundaries at the beginning so if you're concerned about
this let the case worker know remind them at the beginning you know I prefer my last name to not be on documents or
here's the phone number just reminding you this is the one I like to share with families saying those things at the beginning and reminding them can help
set the tone and um you know cuz we all forget things and make mistakes so I always like to remind people at the
beginning another concern I hear is that parents maybe are pushing boundaries or contacting too often if I give them my
number are they just going to call and text and want things all the time so sure that might happen think about you
know your child if they were off somewhere you would want updates and what's going on and ensuring their safety and so um here are some examples
of ways to you know dictate boundaries and also hold
them yeah so my work time is from 9: to 4:00 each day and so I really can't um
like text or take calls but just so you know um I will call you or text you if
there's an emergency with Sam so don't worry I will just call you direct and
let the case worker know but I just want to let you know if there is an emergency I will connect with you I would prefer
for my information to be private so my last name or address and I use a Google Voice so if you are giving um Tanya my
number can you give her my Google Voice number yeah let me let me get it for you and is it possible to have like some
rules or guidelines for visitation or phone calls just so we can all align I
know sometimes um there's a confirmation needed if they're going to attend the
the visit um and then there's usually a set amount of time that we wait until the visit's
cancelled and ultimately if there's anything um that I should know if we're doing phone calls at home like that are
against the rules and I just would love to have that in
writing I always try to you know give a little leniency and Grant some Grace
because we are all human they are in crisis so for every tiny little thing that comes up I don't always report
everything immediately I try to resolve directly with the parent cuz sometimes you know inserting a caseworker changes
the tone they may not trust you as much and I like to you know show that we can resolve conflicts and talk openly about
problems and so that's how I usually set the tone I try to manage things on my
own I'll still document it though because I do like to have record of any issues and especially if there's a
concern about something I'm doing as a parent I do like to report that just because things can spiral aut of control
sometimes and turn into a false allegation and I do like to always be organized for that but little things
here and there oh you know about hair care or what they're eating um how they're doing the homework whatever it
is I try to resolve that in the moment and I also try to be lenient and
understand that everyone has bad days including myself and try to approach it just as a human relationship that
usually sets me up for the most success um of course though if things are becoming difficult or repetitive or the
same things are happening always involve the caseworker and they can help schedule a meet a team meeting you know
bring some things up and help resolve things in a professional manner all
right so I know I've given you a lot to think about hopefully you've taken away some things that you can put into practice immediately I want to spend the
next um few minutes answering your question so these are specific questions from you all so I'm going to answer them
and provide some ideas on your specific situation okay as a new foster parent how do you get over the fear of working
with an unstable biop parent now this word unstable I definitely hear it a lot
especially as it relates to F to biop parents um and so first I I would look
at who used that term so if it's the caseworker that's labeling the parent this way I would ask a little bit
further what that means and and that response may put you at more at ease or
at least help you kind of understand what the situation is and just know that
the way they treated maybe another foster parent could be different than the way they treat you right because
you're going to approach it differently you're going to have a different tone a different demeanor you're going to provide different care for their child
and so just know and have an open mind that hearsay or another person's um
situation will be different than yours okay okay if it's you that's feeling this way it's totally fine um one way to
kind of frame your thinking is at the beginning of a case this is a chaotic
situation this is a crisis and so we wouldn't want to label someone or hold
on to our opinions of someone during a crisis situation um because they're frantic they're worried they're scared
and with your communication and your openness to work together they could
could become more stable of course that's not the case all the time but I
would encourage you to have an open mind and maybe wait some time couple weeks a
month and then reapo and try again and see if the tone is different some practical things you can do is start
slow and ease in you can start with that journal you can provide you know back
and forth communication you can keep it simple and focused on the child as a way to start that communication and you can
also potentially open up to emails now not every parent is going to have access to a computer and email but perhaps and
you can offer it because emails is a little bit more um professional usually
it's documented so if there's problems you have everything in written form so perhaps start there and then build on to
it and remember this doesn't have to happen the building doesn't have to happen overnight it can take months to
build a rapport gain trust and you know get to a place where you're more comfortable and communicating more
frequently if perhaps an icebreaker session was missed by the team and um
you didn't have kind of a formal initial meet and greet you can always request a team meeting a meeting of the Mind a
place to kind of meet chat about how things are going talk about strengths of the family and the child and also areas
of concern sometimes this will provide a clean slate and sets the tone moving forward that everyone's going to be
professional and working well together and lastly sometimes there are mental health crises that just take time look
to your case work case worker for direction on that and sometimes we do just have to sit and wait and um allow
the parent to get the help they need before we start to communicate and have a
relationship so yes sometimes you will run into a family that just doesn't want
to work with you and maybe are working against you and I always start my
thinking in I cannot control anyone there will be people who don't like like me who don't want to talk to me there
will be families who just want to keep things private and I can't control that
that is that is on them so instead I think about what I can control and I
employ some of the same tactics I would with a child in my care and I am going to create felt safety and so what that
means um is I'm am consistent reliable and they know what to expect
with me and that comes in how I communicate my tone my demeanor when I communicate
all of that I try to maintain as consistent as possible so that they always know what to expect and they can
rely on that I will also try to stay as consistent as possible in my support and
encouragement of the family so I use language like your child um I at an
exchange of the visit I will um you know make sure I'm encouraging the child and
say things like oh sweetie did you have so much fun with Mommy today or you know
do you want to give Mom a hug or I know you're G to miss her so much you don't want to go just to show that I'm on
their team I'm not trying to work against them and even if I'm frustrated and angry inside at maybe something that
has occurred in front of the child I try to always be again consistent and clear
in my support and encouragement and from there I can't really control anything beyond that of course if things are are
becoming verbally physically abusive things are threatening or dangerous I
always get a caseworker involved I document it and sometimes we do step back in communication I always try to
keep that journal consistent and consistently showing up in that way and keeping that door open but at the end of
the day I follow the caseworker Direction on what they suggest happening in these moments so for me I tend to
have the same boundaries from the beginning and I can build from there but
I sat down with my husband Chris and kind of thought about what was most important to us and what we needed for
us we valued our privacy so I asked for you know my last name my personal cell
number my personal email and my address to be private when possible and um I
also ask for respect during my workour time so I typically will not communicate
with the parent or respond to them um during my work hours so as a case
approaches tpr I definitely try to keep things as consistent as POS possible and
I don't change how I'm approaching communication the reality is is Anything Can Happen judges can go against
recommendations things can be continued a parent can make a major change appeals can occur and so I keep on pushing
forward and communicating and including the parents so definitely there's still times of concern during visitation so
first if you are monit ing phone video inperson visits um I always set the
expectation at the beginning that I will provide visit summaries to the caseworker team and to submit to court
it's part of my job as a foster parent and what that includes I usually tell them when they arrive observations of
the visit and when the visit concludes um so they kind of know ahead of time that I'm going to be providing feedback
and I like to do that just so everything is out in the air and you know I respect
them them and I would want to know what is reported on me as I mentioned before I do like to know what the guidelines
are what is and isn't allowed to happen at the visit and I share that with the biop parent don't assume that the case
worker did um they need to be informed of what the rules are now if I see
something against the rules during a visit I do intervene at that moment especially if there is a safety concern
I like to mention where you know what rules being broken redirect and try to
just carry on with the conversation so I know we are starting
the calls today I just want to make sure did the case worker give you the guidelines and the rules of the calls
and just so you know I put the phone on speaker and I listen in um I just that's
one of my jobs as a foster parent and um I will also submit to to the case worker
and to the attorney like a summary of the visit just so you're aw where I have
to document when the call starts when the call ends and just any general
observations um and that's about it but I just wanted you to know just so you're aware that I am here listening on the
call sorry to interrupt you guys so it's actually against the rules to talk about the case and timing and specifics um a
case manager has to be at at the visit or at the meeting to talk about it so I'm so sorry we have to change the
topic oh hi who's this okay so it's against the rules for
anyone else to join the visit it's just supposed to be you so I do have to have direct
permission um maybe we could call the casew worker and see if we can get her on the phone otherwise we can't have
them here at the visit okay I need to just jump in real quick let's wrap this conversation up
Sam is pretty upset at this point and this is not a productive conversation
and I will talk to the case worker myself let her know that this was on me um you're welcome to call her as well
but I don't feel comfortable continuing this conversation so let's wrap up and we will you know have another call at
our time tomorrow um now definitely there could be concerns before and after
visitation and similarly I will also report those items too now it's
important to remember that we should only state observations don't assume you know what
the child or parent is thinking so you could be stating a quote you know what
the child said to you and you could State what you verb what you not
verbally what you can visually see so is the child crying are they screaming are they having nightmares bathroom
accidents things like that I summarize um all my notes and I submit to the
caseworker and I do submit to whoever is the court advocate so the attorney the casa gal um I I submit to both just to
make sure that the record is accurate so cutting contact is often not dictated by
me some you know a case worker will usually jump in and dictate what kind of contact is allowed or not allowed or a
judge will issue contact orders and so I personally wouldn't cut everything off I
would still at least do a visit journal to provide updates and photos and things like that um but ultimately if if a cut
off is needed that comes from the team not necessarily me now there has been
times where I have been the monitor for a visit and I've asked for a someone else to monitor because there's issues
or concerns that I haven't been able to resolve between myself and the parent and would like a third party involved so
that is something you can do and ask for and consider even phone calls and videos um bring it up if you need support with
monitoring those visits so manipulation um does occur and again I always try to
remind myself this is a very traumatic situation people can be desperate so I
take manipulation seriously make sure that you are reporting things to the caseworker especially cuz sometimes
things can lead into a false allegation you can also spend the time digesting and working through this difficult
situation with the child um sometimes kids are honest with what's being asked of them from their parent sometimes
they're not but you know maybe some things are happening so you can always reflect with the child and say you know
how was the visit how did it make you feel um do you have any questions or
concerns and starting there and you can also preface you know if you want to
share anything with me I'm here to listen you know nothing is off off
limits I separate that conversation and we sometimes um chat with kids more
generally or at a different time about consequences or the way Foster Care
works you know some kids don't realize that um if it doesn't work out with you they get to go home and that's just not
the case some sometimes parents don't really understand um and so sometimes I
will just like to talk generally about how foster care Works how placements work how you know homes are decided
where kids go and what the judge's role is and sometimes that background information can be helpful and help kids
make decisions and um navigate these situations now if a child is put in the
middle and and discloses to you about you know their parent requesting them to say or do something you can offer them
some things to say in the moment if they're not comfortable and validate
their feelings worries concerns discomfort you can offer them a third
party someone to talk to the case worker their Advocate someone you know Casa
someone that they can talk through um because they're sort of in the middle right between maybe you and their
parent and continually reinforcing that
um these decisions of them being in foster care is not is not up to them
they don't hold that burden um nothing you know this isn't their fault and um
it's not right that they're put in that situation and continuing to emphasize that and also you not personally
punishing or getting upset with them for a choice they've made you know you staying neutral will also help encourage
kind of honesty in that situation and lastly you can advocate for the child to join a support group for youth their age
that are in foster care these are sometimes hard to find but I would challenge your case worker to help you
find somewhere and these types of issues can be discussed in support group with a
professional facilitator a lot of kids feel like they're in the middle and having to navigate these situations and
getting requests from their parents and peer support can be really helpful and
it takes you out of that equation they can speak openly and freely um facilitators are still mandated
reporters and so they're protected in that sense but seeking out a group for
them may be really helpful that's it all right thank you so much for listening
and engaging today and um I hope that you've learned something new or reminded
yourself of something that you could do to maybe improve or resolve a situation
and I am here to help so you are welcome to reach out to me and my contact information will be provided to you in
the goodie bag so feel free to reach out if you have follow-up questions or want to talk through something I offer you
know one-on-one conversations with foster parents for free it's part of my mentorship and um I I hope to hear from
you and I hope that you found something today that will work for you and I wish you all the success and again thank you
for your service and for being there for the kids and their families and prioritizing that relationship it is
very meaningful even at the end of the day if you're feeling exhausted and overwhelmed and you feel like you're a
failure please know that every moment counts and every moment matters and I
appreciate you so thank you for caring so much for these
families
Video 60 Day Session: Streamlining Healthcare One Consent at a Time
Video 60 Day Session: Streamlining Healthcare One Consent at a Time
Video 60 Day Session: Streamlining Healthcare One Consent at a Time
Transcript of video:
hi everyone and Welcome to our Healthcare presentation streamlining Healthcare one consent at a time the
focus is going to be navigating consents and processes for healthcare needs within our foster care system my name is
Danielle I am the nurse for the burin and Littleton district offices and I've been with the state for approximately
four years and this is Lisa who she's going to introduce herself everyone my name is Lisa Dyer so
like Danielle said um I also work in the Foster Care Health Program I'm out of
the conquer district office and I started back in November of
2022 and what we're going to do is just briefly talk to you about how this came to be and then we're going to go through
and review some slides with you that we hope you find helpful and can reference back later for questions that might come
up relating to healthcare needs for the kids in your care so how this came to be we realized that there was a need to
collaborate better between the Foster Care Program nurses and the foster care parents and caregivers we realized that
there were a lot of uh moments of lack of awareness on what to sign what you can sign what you can't sign and we
realize there's actually a lot of caregivers who don't realize that there are nurses in every district office so
we wanted to go through this to hopefully help make that a little bit more smooth for you and it'll allow you
to see who the nurse is in the office you're working with so that way you can go back and ask questions for healthcare
needs for the kids in your care if things come up and you're not so sure um who to
ask yeah and it's going to be kind of informal um so Danielle and I you know
we're going to go through each slide and one of us will be talking about it but don't be surprised if you hear from both
of us because we're going to kind of go back and forth throughout the presentation um just to make sure that
we cover everything and we're thorough and give you as much information as we can throughout the presentation
all right so our learning objectives are
going to be familiarizing yourself with a foster care health program and the nurse consultant role increasing
knowledge of the role of the caregiver relating to healthcare needs recognizing the difference between custody and
guardianship and understanding the processes for medication consents Surgical consents and other Medical
Dental needs some important words and
definitions that we thought we would like to share with you are on this slide DCF has tons of different acronyms and
different abbreviations that we use these are the ones that come up the most often within our Rule and we referen
them throughout the PowerPoint so I wanted to have a slide on here for everyone to see that way you can look at
this later if you're not sure what it is that we're talking
about so we kind of wanted to go through a scenario um just and give you some questions just
so that um you can kind of gauge maybe where your understanding is now and then
once we go through all of this we hope that um you'll be able to judge if you've been able to learn anything new
um versus like if you were to make a decision today with this scenario versus um with new information would you do
anything different moving forward and our hope is the answer will be yes as we
move forward um so let's say you're caring for a four-year-old boy who is in
the custody of DCF and he wakes up one morning and he has a fever of 100.4 and
a cough so you decide that you need to take him to your local urgent care to be seen uh at the check-in the receptionist
asks you to sign a few forms and these forms include their patient privacy Bill
of Rights which is basically um covering uh our hippoc consense um they'll give
you a consent to treat and permission to Bill insurance so with that being said let's
think about these three questions as we move through and give you information throughout this
presentation so what should you bring with you to this appointment which of the above three
forms are you legally allowed to sign and who should be notified of the Urgent
Care visit so we're not going to answer them right now but just keep those in the back of your mind and think about them
as we move
forward so now we're going to kind of get into some of the information so we're going to start with
um what is the role of the nurse consultant so we wear a lot of different
hats um within our position within DCF so first and foremost our job is
really to ensure that all of the healthcare needs are being being met for the children in in
care so one of those things involves um something we call an initial
comprehensive exam or you may hear the term ice thrown around and that's what that's referring
to and what that is is once a child is removed there's uh DCF policy
1651 that states that for any child in out of home placement they need to have
an initial comprehensive exam and there's certain time frames that need to be met so for a child that's under the
age of two they need to have an exam done within 30 days oh I'm sorry if
they're under the age of two it needs to be done within 48 hours and if they're
over the age of two it needs to be done within 30 days and the goal is always
for them to be seen with their own PCP whenever possible because they have that history and
uh records and are familiar with that child as with a lot of things there can
be caveats or exceptions so let's say there's like a newborn that we've for whatever reason
needed to put into placement prior to them being discharged from the
hospital so if they were to go straight from the hospital into care um like into
your home they would typically get a full assessment
um by the discharging provider on the day of discharge and that would meet this requirement because they're going
they're getting that full physical exam and they're going right from the hospital into your care without going
home to um their biological parent so that would meet that requirement for
that exam but also um when being discharged from like a ncu or special
care it's the typical standard of care care for infants to also then be seen
within 48 hours for followup with their PCP where they're also going to get
additional followup so they wouldn't then need an additional um initial comprehensive
exam another um thing that would meet this
requirement as well would be something called a cap exam and that cap stands
for a child advocacy protect Protection Program and these type of of
exams happen in um a clinic and they can be
recommended for many different reasons um when significant abuse and neglect
and Trauma are suspected and these exams
are thorough they can include urine hair talk screens and uh full history and
physical and if they have one of these um complete thorough cap exams this can
count for uh initial comprehensive exam so if
one of these does take place then most likely a child would not need an
additional ICE exam depending on timing and history of
the case and involvement we may or may not know ahead of time if the child's behind in their medical needs um if we
have this information a lot lot of times we try to get like a two for one in other words if they're going for this
initial comprehensive exam we can try and count it as like a catch-up Wild Child appointment so you're not then
having to go back within you know a week couple days whatever the situation may be to also then also have a well child
check for example sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't um but we are
trying to get them caught back up on their medical needs so if they've also had an initial comprehens of exam and we
do find out they are behind and need well child checks you may be asked to have to take them back to another
appointment that does seem closely timed with an ice exam and that is just so
that you understand they are two different types of appointments so they may still need both of those and the
expectation would be that you would have to bring them to those because they do need
those I think that's a good overview Lisa and I think it's a good reminder that we're talking about a lot of
information throughout these slides and we don't expect you to remember all of this that is why this is part of the
role of the nurse we are here to help you with this so we're we're the ones who are going to help you figure out if
that visit they just had an Urgent Care can count for an ice exam or if that cap visit counts for a nice exam so not
anything you guys have to figure out on your own just I want to throw that in there because I don't want anyone to feel
overwhelmed but there's so many good like moving pieces to this that it's just a good reminder
that that's why we're here and that's why we're doing this
exactly well child checks and initial comprehensive exams another really uh important part of Children's Medical
Care is their dental care and um we want to make sure that they're getting that
taken care of as well um so they're at a minimum needing to have
at least two cleanings uh a year so that would be like their every every six months they really should be starting to
have oral assessments done during that their first year um especially once that first tooth erupts and typically that
can be done in their pcp's office up until around age one and then we should
be looking to get them established with a dental provider in the community so
they can have that ongoing followup for those older children um it may be
recommended if they have a lot of dental carries or cavities that they have
additional cleanings um a lot of times there can be push back from insurance where they get
a denial saying they're not eligible for additional cleanings and if that's happening and the recommendation is
being made that they should have additional cleanings please reach out to the nurses and your offices because they
can help you with that because we can go and assist with you know reaching out to
get those additional cleanings um with their with their New Hampshire Medicaid and get that covered
and then also um children that have had dental surgery are automatically eligible for additional cleanings they
can get a cleaning every three months for a year following um dental surgery and it's not mandatory but it's
highly recommended really want to make sure that the surgery has a chance to
heal and that we're able to help help that by keeping those teeth clean and
healthy especially in that year following that dental surgery and then um just when it comes
to orthodontia and wisdom teeth that is a big thing especially with our
pre-teens and teenagers and um just if it's being recommended for the children
in that age range um it's really best just to kind of let us know as soon as possible and get us those forms
especially for the guardianship kids it can be a really lengthy process um so
just letting you guys know that ahead of time it's not us it's just the process it takes with New Hampshire Medicaid and
it can even be a long process for the the custody youth um just because of
going through New Hampshire Medicaid um so just working with us and getting us those forms and just keeping the social
worker and the nurse and the parents and everyone involved so that we can help you whenever questions come up is I
guess really the key point to take away when it comes to that and we recognize that sometimes
it's hard to get people in for dental appointments I know that we have a lot of issues with that in the North Country
there's just a lack of resources some waiting lists are longer than the six-month window that we're talking
about we're going to work with you and we're just going to do the best we can with what we have and sometimes that may
involve having to have kids seen outside of the area where you live sometimes we have to have kids travel to an office
that would take them a little bit sooner so again something that we will work with you on but I wanted to just put that plugin too because I know that it's
a lengthy process for a lot of things including sometimes just the basic
appointment So Lisa mentioned the well child visits a little bit when she was talking about the comp exams and the big
thing with this is we're making sure that all the kids that are within our care are being seen annually for their
Wellness visits and then babies sometimes obviously get seen sooner so those ones are getting seen multiple
times in that first year we're just ensuring that those visits are happening following up with the providers and just
making sure that the kids are remaining healthy and we're also making sure that their immunizations are up to date we're
not going to get into any specifics about immunizations today because really that could be a whole presentation in itself but I just wanted to put in here
that we are following this as well and these are all things that we would want you to let us know about so if they have
a wellness visit they have immunizations done please let the nurse and social worker know so we can keep track of
it and then another big part of our role is medication oversight we're going to talk about this a little more specific
in a future slide but I just wanted to put a plugin that this is a New Hampshire state law House Bill 120 and
you'll see it referred as hb20 and this is to monitor medications for children and out of home placements
so the placement provider which would be you as the caregiver and the social worker should be reviewing every month
when they when the visits happen the monthly visits happen with your social worker all the medications that the kids
are on the doses the changes of medication side effects such and we'll talk about that a little bit more just a
little bit all right so as we move forward
we're going to go through some terms and we just wanted to kind of lay them out here before we get started just so that
um you're familiar with them and we use a lot of terms um in the world of foster
care and DCF and they can be really confusing um sometimes they're used
interchangeably uh when they shouldn't be and that can also add to confusion so we just wanted to go through um some of
the legal terms and what they actually mean just to kind of help with some of
that understanding which also will help you guys to understand your role as well
so legal supervision um just refers to like an inhome case and that dcyf is
monitoring so the children are still living in the home with their parents and then protective supervision DCF has
removed the child from their home for concerns for child safety um there's no
official finding of abuse or neglect yet so this is um before going um before
there's been a trial but there so there could be a child in your home placed
with you and they just haven't gone um and had their trial yet um so you may
hear the word adjudication thrown around and that's what that means that's so it's pre-trial it we haven't had a
judication hearing yet um and then legal custody uh dcyf is the legal custodian
of the child so there has been a finding of abuse or neglect um so that post-
trial so that means they've gone to adjudication and that determination has been made so then their that child would
be considered to um be in legal custody of DCF and then we have
guardianship so DCF has been granted guardianship of the child so essentially
DCF is the parental figure for that child and guardianship can take on
different looks depending on many factors so when in doubt ask before
signing something and this I know it says it for guardianship but when in
doubt ask about anything for signing I think I don't think we can say that enough um but for sure just ask
um let's see here just trying to think Danielle do you have anything um that
you can think to add on to that yeah I think I think the big thing is legal
custody versus guardianship I feel like are the two that you as the caregiver probably are going to hear the most and
I just want to make sure it's clear that legal custody does not mean a parents
rights are terminated guardianship does not mean a parents rights are terminated it really depends on where we're at in
the case legal custody simply means that DCF has some ability to intervene if
needed if the parent was not doing something that they needed to do or there was concerns for delaying care
such things as that and then guardianship we can have guardianship of kids and be the parent figure but the
parents still retain their parental rights it could be a situation where maybe you can't find the parent at the moment or maybe the parent is even in a
detox facility where we can't get a hold of them but this child might need something medically there's a lot of different reasons why we might have
guardianship so just keep in mind that we know it's confusing we're trying to explain it here and even saying all of
this is probably confusing to you as you're hearing it but just feel free to ask ask the social worker ask us we will
help to the best of our ability to clear that up for you whatever question you might have yeah and just as we move
through the slides I think for the purpose of like this presentation and the information that we're sharing when
a child is in your home protective supervision and legal custody as far as
like what you can and can't sign those really work together as the same for you
guys so the the parents have medical decisionmaking so they're the ones
signing for things um so that's really I think the key is those
two together mean essentially Your Role is the same for
children in um both protective supervision and legal custody so um just kind of think about it um like that is
your role is is the same um as far as the parents having um their medical
decision- making and then as far as guardianship goes whether parents still
have their rights and it's temporary or not DCF is the one that's the the signing figure in that moment and so
just just that kind of breaks it down as at least simple simply enough for you to
know where your role is and kind of who would be the signing person for that um but again if you forget or it's
confusing um because we still get confused you just just ask yeah
absolutely and I do think we have a future slide coming up that'll talk a little bit more about what you can and can't sign as far as medical um so we'll
get into that in just a minute so medical authorizations this is
a very busy slide and if you remember nothing else from the slide I would say the most important thing to read off of
the slide are the things in bold so medical authorizations are needed for children in placement to seek routine
and emergency medical dental mental health care and the other bolded item being placement provider which is you
should always have a copy of this medical authorization so like we were just talking about custody versus
guardianship it gets very confusing but for a medical authorization if this is a
custody situation the parents are the ones who are signing these so this would be a form that the parent has signed
giving permission for the child to have those routine and emergency needs met if this is a kid in our guardianship then
it would be a form that has the dcyf administration signing off on it and those typically have a gold seal at the
bottom because it's an official document for the State of New Hampshire and just a side note for these forms some of them
will say that covid has been approved some of them won't say Co at all and we're not getting into specific with
covid vaccine but we just thought it'd be important to mention that for specifically a kid in custody if there
is no mention of covid vaccine on there we cannot be giving a covid vaccine
during a medical visit and dcyf does not even have the ability to override that
for a custody situation because this is still an emergency use only type medication type vaccine so just kind of
to throw it in there for guardianship typically you will see it on there especially where the window is month and
up but if the guardianship medo does not have any Co language again we can't be
doing anything with covid vaccines unless we have it in writing on these
forms now for the copy that you should get this should really ideally be given
to you when the child is first placed with you we know that that doesn't always happen but you should be getting it fairly soon in the beginning and we
would want you to bring this form with with you to all the visits that you go to even though we try to send them via
fax to all the facilities the PCP the dental provider sometimes faxes don't go through so it's always good for you to
have a hard copy to bring with you just in case and you should also bring the placement letter that you get at the
time of the child being placed with you this is that two-page document that has your information on the front saying
that DCF has whichever legal relationship with a child they're placed in your home with your name phone number
address the second page has a whole bunch of different contact numbers it has the do supervisor the social worker
um it just kind of gives you a little bit more info on who to reach out to and it also has the after hours phone number
so if you were bringing a child on like a Saturday to the emergency room for something and you needed to call and
talk to someone directly from DCF you'd have to call that emergency um after hours number because there is somebody
available 247 if needed so having that form with you is just good in case you
need that number so you're not trying to chase that down
okay so here is a slide just on custody and guardianship um just to break it down a little bit more and just to give
a little bit more clarity so DCF custody we have on the
left-and side and DCF guardianship on the right and we have it laid out just so you can kind of
see uh like compare the the two roles and um who can sign what so on the
custody side that just means that the parents retain their parental rights and
that parents should be the one signing um consents that are needed for the child parents are um the ones that need
to be in agreement um and consenting for all medical dental and surgical
needs and um parents are the ones that need to be in agreement and consenting
for medications prescribed for um their child and then on the guardianship side
um DCF would be the one um acting as the parent on behalf of the child uh ad DCF
administrators would be the ones that would be signing off on all um medical
dental and Surgical consents and then also um DCF administrators um they need to be the
ones to approve all Behavioral Health medication requests
and then just wanted to touch on kind of what is and isn't your role as um a care
provider and I think we've mentioned it quite a few times but we totally
understand how confusing it could be um to be in your shoes um we throw a lot of
services at you a lot of people um a lot of information just even in this
presentation um and without you guys these kids wouldn't have a you know a
safe and stable environment so we need you and we appreciate you guys um they
need you for that safe and stable environment um we you know you guys are
providing that loving and nurturing home and environment for them and you're there to help the children and and
meeting their needs um you're there for them you know in their day in and day out um so you're helping them with their
healthare their education their emotional well-being so I mean essentially you're
their Advocate um we aren't going over prudent parenting um I know that is um
something that's covered during your your initial um licensing training um
so those are the things that you should be following and um if you have questions regarding any of that
definitely reach out to your social worker um to go over stuff like that but those are the things that
really that's that's kind of the expectation of um your role as the care
provider for the children um think really though as long
as the children are in in your home you don't really have any legal authority over the child if they're in custody the
parents still have really that legal decision making and then if they're in guardianship then GCF administrators
really have um that legal Authority for for signing and consenting to things um
so we as their care provider you really can't be consenting to um Behavioral
Health medications or to any like Medical Dental or surgical treatments so we just wanted to take a
moment to go over um over that um so like a couple of
examples uh like you really shouldn't be signed ing releases uh for forms for
receiving or transferring medical records that really should be coming through um the nurse or the social
worker if we're finding that you're at an appointment and they're they're stating that you know they haven't
received medical records in the office maybe it was a new specialist appointment that you're attending and
you find out that maybe some records didn't make it over you can ask them to reach out to
the social worker or the nurse or um you can do that as well after the appointment and we can help facilitate
that information getting where it needs to be but we really wouldn't want you to be signing those release of
information uh forms
exactly so for medication monitoring we talked about this a little bit earlier I said we'd revisit it and here it is so
House Bill 120 hb20 this is a New Hampshire state law that went into effect January 1 of 23
and it requires the nurses to have oversight of all Behavioral Health medications for children and out of home
placements so again this is specific to behavioral health medications so we need
to know about new medications meds that are being changed discontinued if there
are any side effects to any of their medications and these Behavioral Health medications have to be approved prior to
a child starting on them so for DCF guardianship kids DCF nurses need to get
a form sent to us that talks about what the request is and we'll show you that in a few minutes too but we have to go
through and approve it before the kid can start on it the same way if it was a custody child if it's a custody child
the parents have to be in agreement and approve that Med before the provider should be starting it and this is only
specific to the behavioral health narcotic type meds this doesn't apply to a child who has a seizure disorder blood
pressure meds antibiotics anything that's kind of routine and to stabilize them with whatever medical need they
have those ones we would want to know about because we need to keep track of meds but we don't need to give permission prior to the child starting
on it so I just think that's really important to separate out what we do need to approve in advance and what we
don't so we're going to go through consent processes and hopefully explain things a little bit more about
that all right so we're going to break down the medication consent process into um the two different roles so first
we're going to talk about custody and then we'll follow it up with the guardianship role just because they do look different so the first first one
we're going to talk about is custody uh and the role um with regard to medication consents so um with custody
the parent are Guardian so not someone from DCF would be the person to approve
um that medic that um medication so again like Danielle mentioned on previously on the previous slide that
doesn't include like starting an antibiotic or eardrop or some kind of like lotion for a rash or something like
that um if you take a child to an appointment and that's you know they were sick and they need um a medication
like an antibiotic or something like that that's covered under your medo for routine um Medical Care and so we'd want
to know that because we'd also want to let the parent know that hey they were sick and they had to start on something but um this is really talking about
getting that approval from the parents for these Behavioral Health medications
um so there's no official request form that's needed the doctor is just going to if the parent's not at the
appointment the doctor's going to need to call and speak with the parent to get that
permission uh the social worker and the nurse should be informed of any um
additions or changes to um these Behavioral Health medications though just um because we do need to keep track
of it and then also if there are any kind of reactions or side effects that are
occurring or that you're seeing uh please let the nurse and the social
worker know and then a lot of times with these Behavioral Health medications
there can be additional things that are needed uh some of these medications require uh routine Labs whether that's
you know every three months or once a year uh vitals to be taken or sleep logs
to be done um so that's just something to know and may ask for your your help
and keep track of those things along the way and then
um we do have something called or ordinary medical care or OMC we haven't touched on it just yet but in it's
basically a law that um exists to ensure there's no delay in care and it's really
for emergency use only and it really should be temporary and like a one-time
use it's not really for ongoing use and what this covers is situations where if
a parent is you know missing um we can't reach them there is this ordinary
Medical Care law that exists um to help us but really we need to be doing our
due diligence um the social worker and DCF as a whole to make every effort
including and this includes the doctor needing to make a phone call trying to email whatever way that we can reach out
to these parents we especially with concerns to behavioral health medications we really need to be doing our due diligence to reach these parents
to get their consent to start um a behavioral health medication
um before we are looking to OMC
um it does exist like I said but we really want to be giving parents a chance
um because it is really for emergency use um so we want to do that first and
then if we feel like the child's mental health is in such a way
that this is of the utmost importance uh that it needs to be done and we can't
delay then we do have this that we can use and then we need to address any
ongoing issue um and possibly look at what might need what steps might need to
be taken whether that's guardianship or something else down the road um to take care of this so that it's not used
ongoing to address that need for that child um for their ongoing medical
needs uh and just as a side note OMC um can't be used for things like um covid
vaccines um because like Danielle mentioned earlier uh the covid vaccine for Pediatrics is still listed as
emergency use only so we wouldn't be using it um to Grant permission for
something like that exactly
and then for guardianship we have a form 1653 which will take a peek out here in a second on the next slide um that we
provide to the the prescribing doctor of the medication so that they can fill it
out because the state of New Hampshire as Leal Guardian will need to approve the medication prior to the start of the
medication or um a dose change um so
it's one of the priority roles of the nurse um we get this form it's a multi-step process and um a lot of times
there's many steps that are involved um and we will make sure that Labs vital
sleep logs like there's a lot of things that go into this that we help to facilitate and follow along um in our
role as the nurse in the office when it comes to the behavioral health medications and the form 1653 when it's
a guardianship child so just know if there's a request coming through and you're not hearing
back like within the same day or even the next day sometimes this could be why because of all the steps involved
sometimes it takes us a little bit to gather everything that we need in order to be able to approve the
meds yeah so this is just there's multiple pages to this form this just happens to
be in the front page um in case you see it um this is what it looks like um this is a blank one this is what we send out
to if it's the PCP um it could be um their psych um
psychiatrist it could be um a therapist that also is prescribing a medication um
so this is what it would look like and we'd have to have this form filled out
and we also asked for a progress note to be accompanied by it and we go through
this and we make sure that everything is in place and then we start processing it
and um and go from there and a lot of people don't realize this but even this
would even be filled out for something like um an ADHD medication that is considered a behavioral health
medication um which a lot of kids are on that so
just you know a tidbit of information for you guys this that type of medication would fall under this um and
it would still have to go through those same steps if they were a iians ship child
exactly so surgical consents very similar to what least it was just talking about with how the medication
consent process works so for a child in DCF custody the parents need to be aware and approve prior to the procedure
happening we can use OMC ordinary medical care if it's an emergency type situation where a child needs like an
appendectomy or something and let's say we can't get a hold of the parents but the child needs to have this done or
it's detrimental to their health we could sign under ordinary Medical Care to be able to cover that once we have
that legal custody status which is after the adjudication like we talked about earlier so that would be kind of when we
can use that for surgery we would not be able to use OMC for something that's a routine not necessary such as like a
circumcision unless there's a medical reason for it because it's usually considered cosmetic so we can't typically sign under ordinary medical
care for something such as that and then for Guardian ship kids the state of New Hampshire as Le Guardian needs to
approve the surgeries prior so again letting the nurse know as soon as possible that a child's going to need any type of surgery is super helpful
because this is also a multi-step process and we have to be able to arrange for the surgical consents the
anesthesia consents sometimes these are written forms sometimes they're verbal so there's just a lot of things that we
have to be able to coordinate so the sooner we know the better so that way we're not in the last moments before the
procedure and not having all these things done because we don't want to delay any of the kids having procedures done that they need to have done and a
side note dental procedures that have nitrous oxide are considered a procedure that needs the same kind of consent
process as surgeries so if we have a child who is a DCF custody child they
went in for their cleaning their cleaning says they need to have additional work done under nitrous oxide in a custody situation the parents do
have to give permission prior to that happening for a guardianship child DCF needs to give that permission so just
remembering that there there are certain things that need to be talked about with
us prior to them having care done and a lot of dental offices I feel like are very good about reaching out to us
because they treat it as a procedure as well but I think it's just important that we talk about it here with you guys
as the caregivers because it gets
confusing all right so back to our scenario now that we've thrown all this
information at you and your brain is m we're going to go through this scenario and see if you can pull out any of that
information now um and see if you would do anything different in this
scenario then what you may have done for those of you that have you know are
seasoned care providers and have taken care of um children in your home before
maybe you've done something differently and you may change your mind and move
forward differently now having listened to some of the information that we've shared um so we'll just go through the
scenario again real quick and see see how you do um so you're again caring for
this four-year-old boy who um is in DCF custody and he wakes up sick with an
elevated fever and a cough and you take him to the local urgent care and at
check-in the receptionist asks for a few forms so um they are asking you to sign
this patiency privacy rights uh consent a treat and a permission to Bill
insurance so question one what should you bring to this
appointment so as we talked about hopefully you guys remember and if you don't that's why we're doing this again
but you would want to bring obviously the child because you want them to be seen you would want to bring the medical
authorization that you should have a copy of and that placement letter that has all the phone numbers for contacting
people after hours because as you can see this is a Saturday morning the offices are not open so if you needed to
reach anybody through DCF you'd have to call that after hours number
exactly all right so which of the above three forms are you legally allowed to
sign so interestingly enough the only one that you cannot sign is the consent
for treatment so as we talked about earlier consent for treatment has to be by the parent or dcf's Guardian
depending on what the statuses legally for that child the difference between that in the permission to Bill insurance
and the hipa Privacy rights is that those are acknowledgements those are not consenting to anything so when they
present you with the hipa compliance and they're asking you to sign they're just asking you to sign acknowledging that
you have been provided the patient privacy rights that you've been provided that information that they're not going to share information without being
allowed to legally and they're binded to do that legally and for the permission to Bill insurance it's still an
acknowledgement that the insurance is going to be built so neither of those are consenting to anything but a consent
for treatment would be consenting to something so hopefully that makes a little bit more sense now that we've talked about all of the differences at
length but if not remember you can reach out to your nurse at any point and we can talk to you about this again or if
you have questions about it you're not sure that you should be signing it just ask us and then we can talk with you
more about this yep so ideally in this situation because it's a Saturday morning they um really
should be trying to reach the parent um for that to consent a treat
get a verbal and if they can't reach the parent then because you knew what to
bring for question one and you brought that um the uh placement letter with you you
have those phone numbers for the person to call that's on call 24 hours a day and they be able to consent to treat
over the phone um and that's how you would work with that you know that situation and where you can't sign for
the consent to treat um and then the third question who should be notified of the Urgent Care
visit so as Lisa was just talking about you would want to contact the parent if
this is a custody child the parent should know that the kid's being seen even if the office that you bring them
to doesn't need them to verbally like they don't need to reach out to the parent verbally they take your medical authorization and say that covers things
you should let the parent know and if you're not comfortable doing that you should let the social worker know who can let the parent know because we want
to make sure that the parents are being included in on all of these things because they still have those medical decision ability for their child and it
is still their child so they should be aware of what's going on and you would want to let dcyf know if we're the
guardian by letting the social worker know or like we said calling that after hours number if there's something that
urgently needs to be addressed prior to Monday when the offices are back
open so this slide here just goes over the answers to the questions that we just talked about we wanted to do this
as a reference for later so that way any of you who are currently watching this could screenshot this if you wanted to
take a picture with your phone it just might be helpful for you to have later which is why question two on here has
the after hours number and bold because we wanted to make sure that we're providing you as much information as we
could so we want to thank you all for
listening in on this presentation we know that this is a lot of information we're hoping that it helps to streamline
some of the questions or maybe things you weren't sure about before we're hoping that this helped answer some of those questions and we are going to be
working on creating a Q&A that we can eventually send out to everyone we're presenting this content at different
conferences as well so hopefully we can send something out with additional questions that maybe we didn't cover we
realize that there's probably still a ton of questions that we couldn't answer here but we are limited by what we could
present today we couldn't talk all day long even though I'm sure Lis and I would love to do that so there will be
things that we probably didn't get into specifics on so that's why we want you to reach out if you have questions and
if you have any questions specific to the content in this presentation please reach out to myself or Lisa as we're the
ones who kind of created this you can also reach out to the nurses in your office and the next few slides we're
going to go through I'll leave it there for a few seconds so that if you are taking a picture or what not you're able to see it but we listed out all of the
nurses for the state and what office they're out of so that way you can look for the nurse specific to your office that you would want to reach out to
anything else you want to add Lisa before I move through the content of the contacts no definitely I mean thank you
guys for everything that you do and um definitely I mean we just look forward
to working with all of you guys and hearing from you and your questions and um just twin and doubt reach out for
sure we know it's a lot and um you guys are giving a lot and doing a lot so thank you so much yeah thank you we
couldn't do what we're doing without you so please remember that so we'll go through the slides like
I said I'll just keep them up for a little bit just in case you are trying to take a picture of them I'm assuming
that this PowerPoint will also be available to you to reference whenever you need to so you'll be able to pull up this info as well
and then this slide is all of the nurse managers that cover the state and it breaks down which is they're responsible
for again thank you all for listening in with us please reach out if you have any questions and we hope that this
presentation was helpful to you we'd love to have feedback um from you so please reach out if there's anything you'd like us to add for a future
presentation or maybe even topics that would be helpful for you we're happy to take that info back to our team and work
on that for you yep thank you
Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 1
Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 1
Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 1
Transcript of video:
hello and thank you for joining me today
my name is Charity Bell I am a foster
parent and a trainer and someone who has
really thought and considered the impact
that fostering has on families and
children and and our Collective
Community I'm glad to be with you today
talking a little bit about what I
consider to be the hardest part of
fostering for our families which is
transitions this idea of the movement
that happens within foster care and how
we handle it and how the way we handle
it either improves or or makes even
harder the work that we
do I'd like to read you something if you
don't mind it's a bit of a foster gear
Creed that I wrote a long time ago it
says it makes absolutely no no sense to
be a foster parent it is exhausting
frustrating heartbreaking and puts you
in the middle of some of the most
intense and traumatic situations our
society has to offer it seems from the
outside somewhere between insane and
heroic however here is a
secret I Chang the world for the better
with every child and family I join on
this brutal and bewildering journey I
text mom's in recovery first Smiles I
send Dad's struggling for stability
pictures I hold every moment of a
child's time with me is precious I
record it and I ensure that when they
move on no part of their history is Left
Behind in 20 years 25 years now that
I've been a foster parent the world has
seemed brighter at sometimes and darker
at
others however at no time have I felt
powerless to improve things to ensure
that people's lives will be better
because I was here even if it's just one
child at a time it's a gift that I give
myself I'm a foster parent because I
believe the buck stops here that when
people look around and say somebody
should do something that someone is
me yes my heart breaks when they leave
and yes the system is challenging but
just because a thing is hard doesn't
mean we don't do it I'm neither insane
nor heroic I just know that I'm needed I
get to feel better about the world
because my fellow foster parents and I
are taking Tiny Steps to make it better
if the day ever comes when foster
parents are no longer needed I would
miss these little creatures one of whom
happened to be sitting beside me
shredding a magazine when I wrote
this however I would be thrilled to know
that families are safe that children
have stability and that the cycle of
violence trauma and loss has ended until
then foster parents will be here in
between insanity and heroism holding the
edges of a safety
net this is going to be hard I don't
want to try to to pretty it up or make
it seem like it isn't because I think
the hard is what makes it important the
hard is what makes it so that we know
we're doing something that that's real
and that's large and that so many people
wouldn't do but it's going to be
hard loss is a part of fostering and I
think it's important that we know that
it's starts with loss and it's woven
through the process even when the
process works perfectly loss is a part
of
fostering I love this quote that says
I'm not afraid to grieve I'm afraid of
what will happen to these children if no
one took the risk to love them people
ask me all the time why I'm a foster
parent and I'd love to share a little
bit I will tell you that I'm a foster
parent first and foremost because I grew
up in and out of foster care I had
extraordinary people in my life who
reached out to me and yes it caused them
grief and it caused them pain but it
also brought them Joy I hope from being
able to help me help my mom and see the
person that I've grown into first of all
I'm a foster parent to pay back what
someone did for me but the other reason
that I'm a foster parent is because I
believe that we are here to help other
people in a way that is Meaningful and
there is no way more meaningful than
welcoming someone into your home and
welcoming someone into your life whether
it's for a month a year or
forever and I also know that if no one
steps forward things will be even harder
for these children in this family
I want you to understand the different
types of loss and grief we encounter
it's the grief the parent whose child
you're caring for one of the most
precious things that I see in foster
care is the relationships that grow
between Foster families and biological
families and as we get to know these
families we recognize that the situation
they're in is not all of their own
making and that they are like us human
beings that love children and love their
own children and want to be able to care
for them
safely we have to face the grief of the
child who's coming to our home and the
science tells us and the data tells us
that now no matter how young that child
is they experience loss and we are aware
of that as foster
parents then we have the grief of losing
that child to reunification other
placement or a potential pre-adoptive
family if that's a decision that we make
to not adopt that child ourselves
and the grief of others in your family
as that child leaves so one of the
things we know is that with all the joys
that come with fostering and there are
so many joys and so much excitement no
one would do this done for 25 years no
one would do it for this long if there
wasn't Joy but there's also sorrow and
we want to acknowledge
it so what are some of the
characteristics that change grief some
of it is the characteristics of the
relationship you have with a child the
age the child came to how long they've
been with you the fit there are times
when I've had kids that I've said
goodbye to and I've been sad but I also
know that it wasn't
necessarily the the right fit for our
family and while I do not disrupt
because of fit I also know that a child
going home to a family that welcomes
them and knows them and loves them is
the best outcome for them the
ambivalence that we sometimes have
around having kids in our home this is
hard work and not only do the kids come
into our home but they bring their
collaterals social workers and other
people and sometimes we might be ready
for things to end and that can impact
grief and then sometimes we are relieved
there are going to be tough placements
there are going to be tough interactions
and it's okay it's okay to be ready for
a child to
go sometimes a well-planned Cooperative
transition can make it easier and we may
not feel the same amount of loss however
an unexpected or abrupt move can bring
more loss and more grief or there are
times and I have to be honest with you
where a child is going to leave and go
home and you may not love those
circumstances I often hear families
Foster families talk about A+ homes or D
minus homes or all those other things
and first of all that's not for us to
judge I think it's important for us to
acknowledge that many of us grew up in
homes that we would not necessarily
consider A+ homes we don't always run
what would be considered an A+ home if a
child is safe and a child is loved we
need them to be able to go home we know
that that again what we've learned is
that kids who lose their their primary
their biological family they suffer
trauma and we know that if we can get a
child back to their home safely or to
the home of a relative we can help
mitigate some of that loss but that
doesn't mean that there's not going to
be times when you may not feel entirely
comfortable with a
reunification the other P the other part
that's hard is your own feelings about
grief are you giving yourself and your
family an opportunity to feel grief we
also talk about concurrent planning what
were your expectations for the placement
if a child that you were hoping would
stay ends up going that's a different
feeling we also want to talk about what
you're going to be able to do for
yourself what's the agency's plan to
place another child with you and are you
able to take time for yourself and your
family to grieve and also to recover and
be able to feel good again before taking
a new
placement it's really important that we
know that the way we build transitions
is important it will help us feel better
about the transition it'll help the
child feel better about the transition
and one of the things that's great
having fostered in other states is that
New Hampshire has an extremely strong
visitation program you may not believe
this but there are states in which a
child has one visit once a week for one
hour it's really hard for a family to
bond and grow together in one hour a
week but what we know is that New
Hampshire has a true commitment to
visitation and those visits create a
bond they allow F Family and Child and
parent to remain connected or regain
connections that are incredibly helpful
when that child is able to
reunify so there are different kinds of
movement this new beginning there's lots
of new beginnings and it may be
reunification with biological family
which is the first hope of DCF with
nearly every case we encounter there
might be movement to kinship or what we
call fictive kin people who are related
to the child or related to the family
and through relationship as opposed to
blood but still are able to carry those
connections that are so important there
may be movement to a pre-adoptive home
if you like me and other Foster families
have chosen not to adopt but have chosen
to provide a foster home and then when a
child needs a permanent placement that's
not relatives or or biological family a
pre-adoptive home is chosen and we work
with that family to create a strong
transition
there are also times hopefully few and
far between where we need to disrupt
where a placement is unsafe for a child
or family and that child needs to move
to another foster home different kinds
of transitions different kinds of
feelings and different kinds of
preparation so let's talk about when a
transition starts transition planning
starts before a child enters your home
you and your family have to develop a
vocabul and that vocabulary needs to be
stretched to everyone that's going to
interact with that child on a regular
basis you need to talk with your family
about what you're doing about the fact
that this is a temporary placement and
that we want to make sure that everyone
understands that we are hoping in the
vast majority of cases now if you are
taking a child into your home purely for
the purpose of adoption and that child's
parental rights have been terminated Etc
this is a different situation but most
of the time we're looking towards
reunification where we're looking for
kin to be able to step forward and care
for that child making sure that everyone
in your family understands that is
important we also avoid certain labels
like sick to describe the parents
problems it can make a child feel
anxious and your own children can feel
anxious then if you feel sick your
children might think they have to go to
foster care or if you feel sick feel
sick your foster child might think they
have to leave we talk about safety a
parent's job is to keep keep their child
safe when your mom or when your dad are
able to keep you safe then we can talk
about when you'll go home we want to
discuss with your own children how
you're going to talk about these
transitions how the children coming into
your home might discuss with them how to
bring information to you and this whole
discussion process we might have some
mock conversations we might get our
children used to the idea I've had kids
in biological homes their own children
the children of the family or children
who' been adopted who've been offended
by a foster child's true wish to be able
to go home feeling like my home isn't
good enough for you but really reminding
them what homesickness is and how much
we all want to be in our own place we
want to give ourselves and our children
and the people around us vocabulary when
your mom is ready when your Forever
family finds you and keeping everyone
informed is important making sure that
everybody in your family understands you
know if you're going to a holiday
gathering making sure the people there
understand the language to be used
transition starts before a child ever
arrives in your
home once that child actually arrives we
want to make sure that if possible you
and your family have some idea of who's
coming and what challenges they might
have we also know that that may not be
possible and so we want to have a family
meeting of some point where everyone
gets introduced to one another everyone
can get the same message things like
this is Johnny and we're so glad he can
be with us while his mommy works with
the social workers and the court to make
sure she can keep him safe again we do
the house rules and the house schedule
we want to make sure everybody knows
that the rules are for everyone not just
for the child in foster care and then
help everybody understand how the
schedule might change once this new
person is here and also introducing the
foster child to what the schedule in
your house looks
like supervis times when people together
spend time as a family as people get to
know one another and then as soon as
possible talk to the social worker to
get an idea of what the plan is when
will visitation start what relatives are
involved what kind of contact will be
happening the more information you can
get the more the more you'll be able to
plan and also communicate with your
family unfortunately rule one is that
you can never know what to expect I will
tell you that as a foster parent par the
most important thing that you can be is
flexible I tell people all the time the
thing about humans and the system is
very human is that humans can turn on a
dime things can change things may not go
the way we want them to so we don't make
promises we just say this is what I
think is going to happen it might change
but I can tell you if it changes as soon
as I know you
know when you talk to your foster child
we want to talk to them about change and
talk about it in a way that is a
positive thing we're going to give them
a vocabulary no matter what your foster
child says or doesn't say they're
thinking about the past and they're
thinking about the future unless they're
pre-verbal or or in a in a very early
stage but even preverbal children know
that something has happened and
something has changed I'll never forget
talking to a foster parent who had come
into a meeting that I was at and ask
them oh introduce me to your new friend
how long have they been with you and the
child said I've been in this family for
three months two weeks and six
days every moment that child was
thinking about what they had lost their
future and all these other pieces so
reminding yourself that you may not know
and just because your Foster child's not
talking about it doesn't mean they're
not thinking about it we're going to
give kids ideas and vocabulary to use to
talk about the future well you know what
right now we're going to see what
happens with your mom and the people who
are helping her but what I want you to
know is you're going to stay here until
the grown-ups or for an older child the
courts and your social worker decide
what's going to happen next and then as
the plan becomes more clear you can get
more specific when you go to your
Forever family when you go home always
reminding yourself that things can
change you are not in charge I've never
really understood people who wanted to
be in charge I've now reached a point in
my life where I am in charge of some
things and it's not all it was cracked
up to be but the one thing we know
you're not in charge of is how this case
goes so offering the child chances to
ask questions and offer comments is
really important the more open you are
to questions the more comfortable the
child will be in asking them and remind
yourself and the child that you're the
person that keeps them safe you're the
person that keeps them on their schedule
gets them to school makes sure they have
food to eat all those other things but
you're not the person who decides how
everything turns out don't be afraid to
say I don't know keep a notebook where
you can write down questions that they
have they can prepare for social worker
visits or other things by letting the
child know that well you can gather
questions and try to get information
you're not the decision maker that piece
is important because when you have to
explain explain things when a parent
doesn't show up for a visit or court
date is changed you could all be an ally
with the child someone else who is also
in a place where you wish it hadn't been
like that as opposed to someone the
child May
blame the next thing I want to remind
you of is you're an advocate a huge part
of foster parenting is advocacy and as
it becomes clear that things are
changing the better you can start to
plan and advocate for what a child will
need in order to transition successfully
you want to get this conversation
started early hey you know this kid this
5-year-old really struggles with changes
so as you begin to get a good idea of
what's going to happen next I'd
appreciate being kept part of the loop
because we're going to need to start
talking about changes early the more
assertive you can be an advocacy the
better chance you have at being a part
of that decision making think about what
kind of things the child May want to
know what kind of questions can you ask
early in the process you can talk to
kids about what they're worried about or
what they're excited about what's the
most exciting thing about going home
what's something that you might be a
little worried about about going home
what's one thing that you hope is the
same what's one thing you hope is
different opening the door to questions
is one of those powerful things you can
do as a foster
parent
I have to say something one of the
things that I think is most important is
that we as foster parents open up our
families and open up our lives and I
know that can be scary there are a lot
of stereotypes and misconceptions about
the families that Foster children's come
from I want to remind you that as
someone that was in foster care myself I
grew up with one of those people who
some foster parents would think are a
bad person or dangerous or otherwise and
my mom wasn't dangerous my mom was angry
and sad and addicted and many other
things but I will tell you that being
able to stay in touch with her and being
able to keep her as a part of my life
was one of the most precious gifts that
the families who helped me and nurtured
me gave
me transition should not look like the
abrupt end of something we should look
at it as a joining together and the
better we get at that the better dcyf
gets at that the better we all get at
expanding the definition of family as
opposed to limiting it the safer and
more healthy children will be if you
were getting married and somebody said
to you well once you're married you
can't ever speak to anyone in your
family again you'd think that was pretty
weird I think it's important for us to
be able to figure out how we bring
people together safely pay attention to
what DCF or other people might tell you
but
everybody can use more people caring for
them and losing people who cared for you
is one of the most challenging things we
all
experience G there are times when it's
not going to be done well I wish I could
tell you that it will never happen but
it will sometimes Sudden Change is
unavoidable there are things that you
can do if possible the child should
leave from your home if you need to go
to the high school and pick that kid up
so that they can come to your house and
get themselves ready to go you should
try to speak to the person where the
child is going and even write up a guide
if that makes sense especially if the
child's not going to be as able to
communicate what they need what their
their their schedule is and what might
make them feel more comfortable and then
finding some transitional objects I'll
say I think sometimes we think oh well
I'm going to have kids that are 12 so
they won't need a transitional object
and then I look around round at my
friends and I'm not 12 anymore and it's
amazing how many of them bring a special
pillow have something that reminds them
of their family I think that we know
that there are things that we bring with
us that are familiar so you may find
that a transitional object for a
teenager is a certain pillow a certain
blanket but don't hesitate to offer them
the opportunity to gather something up
that might make them feel more
comfortable you you might want to have a
goodbye ritual in times when you are
able to plan when those transitions do
happen in a way that that allows your
family to feel comfortable you might
just have a family dinner to say goodbye
if a child is moving over slowly allow
things to move over as the transition
happens little by little do not allow
favorite bear or objects the child
cannot go without to be left in either
home so we want to make sure that those
transitional objects come back if a
child's doing an overnight or something
like that because unfortunately as I
said on slide three or so you never know
what's going to happen work to create a
bond No matter how small between you and
the new family this again helps create
that Wider Circle I have had so you know
I've been doing this for a long time
I've had over 150 kids in my home and
one of the things I love to do is for a
child who is kind of able to do so to go
I take my my other children with me and
we buy a gift for the child to take with
them for the new family for Mom if
they're going home for Dad for an aunt
or for a new pre-adoptive family and
I've had to clarify a little bit I had
one little boy who was six who was
moving to a pre-adoptive family and we
went to Macy's actually a large
department store and I asked him what he
wanted to choose and we had a long think
about it and we kind of talked and we we
stood in the middle of the aisle and
everybody moved around us and he came up
with what he thought was the perfect
gift and he said
underwear everybody needs underwear we
should get them
underwear
and obviously I I couldn't pick out
underwear for this family and so it
reminded me that I needed to give them a
little bit more guidance so now I say
like a picture frame that you could put
a picture of yourself in or a new
blanket to cuddle on the couch with or
something like that but it's been a
matter of great joy for us to allow a
kid to leave us with an object that
allows them to go not empty-handed into
their new space we've chosen a lot of
presents for dogs just a way to allow
that child to be the giver and it is
exciting for
everyone here are some things that might
help for the child who's leaving let
them Express their feelings one of the
things I've seen is kids really are
excited to go home I can't wait to go
home and I want them to be excited to go
home and sometimes that can give me a
little bit of ouch but I want them to be
able to go home and I want them to be
able to be happy to go home and then we
help them identify their feelings how
does it feel there's so much going on
for you you're leaving here you're going
somewhere new that's a lot what can we
talk
about we can talk straight we can be
honest with the child about where
they're going why they are leaving and
what's happening next you know I'm
really excited that your aunt is able to
be the person who's going to take care
of you now and she's going to be the
person who helps you stay connected to
your mom and your social worker is going
to stay involved and there'll be lots of
people who make sure that things
continue to move forward I know you
really want to go live with your mom
again this is your next step you might
want to make a life book or a souvenir
box you might want to share information
about the with the social worker so that
they can best plan give the child
permission to leave you don't let the
child make you reject them so you may
see a child's behaviors escalate
remaining calm remaining open remaining
loving you can even identify it
sometimes especially with a kid who's a
little more verbal and older saying you
know sometimes what we see is people get
angry and frustrated when they're
leaving and they can take that out in
the old home as they're preparing to go
to the new home and I know you're
feeling a lot of feelings it's okay to
be
upset for the other children in your
home and for other people in your family
who may be impacted by this again talk
straight tell them about the move and
tell them why it's happening be honest
obviously we don't share information
that doesn't belong to us but we also
want to make sure that everyone
understands that the goal is for this
child to be safe and and excited to move
forward so we want to get our family on
board give everybody permission to
express their feelings about the move
and communicate the positive aspects of
the change but also allow them to grieve
it's okay to be sad it's okay to miss
that person and in fact I think we'd all
be a little Disturbed if we lived in a
home and stayed with a home and when we
left everybody was just like bye-bye
bye-bye and nobody expressed any sorrow
it's okay okay to say well we're really
going to miss you but we're so glad that
you able you're able to be with your mom
we're so glad you're able to be with
your aunt we're so glad that you're
going to go to your Forever family
whatever that piece is and in times when
the move is not as positive when things
have not gone well one of the things I
will tell you is that I take that on to
myself I will tell a child I'm so sorry
that our family wasn't the right family
for you I'm sorry that we weren't able
to to keep you safe and I really really
hope that the next place you are is able
to do a better job for you it's not the
child's fault that they've experienced
trauma it's not the child's fault that
they are struggling what we as a system
and what we as foster parents need to be
able to do is to support that child in
building their own self-concept and in
recognizing that sometimes people have
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Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 2
Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 2
Video 60 Day Session: Navigating Reunification, Transitions and Grief Part 2
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now I want to talk a little bit about
some things that may help for the child
that's leaving we want to give them
permission to express their feelings in
addition to accepting those feelings
children may even need help identifying
them what we know is that anger can be a
Primary Emotion anger is a secondary
emotion actually but anger can be one of
the things that children feel but
digging underneath and getting to the
fear and the sorrow and even the hope
and the other pieces that might be there
can be very helpful talking to the child
openly but appropriately about leaving
we don't want to bring it up all the
time but we also want to make sure that
the child knows that it's okay to talk
about it you might make a life book or a
souvenir box give the child permission
to leave tell them it's okay we're going
to miss you so much but I'm so glad
you're going to your mom or you're going
to your Forever family whatever it is
don't make the child reject you don't
fall into the the Trap that can be made
where a child begins acting out or
having intense behaviors and you end up
at at loggerheads with them when what's
really happening is that child is
processing loss and the feeling of of
caring for you is at odds with the
knowledge they're going to lose you be
especially careful with your own ability
to stay calm and stay stable within
yourself when a child's
leaving for other children in the home
or other people who are being impacted
you want to talk honestly about the move
let them know what's going on and again
give them permission to identify and
express their feelings and ask some
questions although you may want to have
those questions asked
privately communicate the positive
aspects of the change remind them that
for many times when foster care this is
what we hoped for we wanted this child
to be a to go home we wanted them to be
able to reunify or unify with relatives
and allow them to grieve allow both of
them to grieve it's okay to be sad and
to be excited about next steps it's okay
to be sad and also a little bit happy to
have the nuclear family back together
two feelings can exist at the same time
and sometimes just being open to that is
the most powerful thing that we can
do
for yourself H as the foster parent you
need to take care of yourself I have not
been doing this for 25 years because I
have not taken care of
myself take time to sort out your
feelings figure out what about the
placement was right for you and your
family and what about the placement
didn't work talk to someone about your
feelings find someone who can be
supportive of whatever you want your
next steps to be I don't know about you
but I have a lot of friends friends who
really don't understand why I Foster
they see the loss and they see the pain
and I think they want to protect me a
little bit and in order to protect me
they they ask why I do it find someone
who's supportive of your reasons and
your next steps if that person isn't in
your immediate circle find a foster
parent foster parents like me are always
willing to help talk to a family as they
move through these Transitions and we'll
help you decide what you want to do next
if you
need establish with your social worker
what future contacts if any might look
like some of the greatest Honors that I
have are the fact that I am a part of
families adoptive families biological
families kinship families whose children
I cared for I'm actually seeing one of
those kids this weekend and not so long
ago I spent time with a 14-year-old who
spent a chunk of time in my house before
he was adopted going through his life
book explaining things to him and as I
was the only one who had met his mother
his adoptive family had not I was able
to tell her a little bit about tell him
a little bit about her and how much she
loved
him maybe draw your family a little
closer and regroup do something together
do something that's special to your
family if there's something you enjoy
something that you go to the movies or
something like that especially if there
was something that wasn't as possible to
do with your foster child or children in
the home with you you maybe you start a
garden where you plant every time a
child leaves a new kind of flower so you
can remember that child or there might
be another ritual or ceremony that makes
sense to you honor the loss it's okay to
be sad foster parents aren't expected to
just wave children away and not care
about them part of what we do as foster
parents is grow attached and care for
these children it makes sense that
you're you would have a hard time time
when they leave
sometimes now I want to ask you to do
some work either on your own or with
your family I'd love for you to spend
some time thinking about the language
we're going to share for why kids come
into care your children may need
language to use with their friends with
other people around them your family
members may also need things to say to
people around them after all suddenly
appearing at Easter with three extra
kids isn't exactly the norm making sure
that your family understands trauma
informed language that they're not
speaking about the child's situation in
front of the child or out of turn
remember a foster child story is just
that it's their story don't share it
with people who don't need to know the
details we want to ask ourselves how we
talk about next steps how we talk about
whether we're hoping that child will
stay with us whether we're open to the
possibilities of the future or whether
there's a plan in mind we're also going
to to talk to our friends and family
about the language they should use and
the actions they should take reminding
your friends and family that whatever
they do for other children in your home
or other children in your family should
be done for your foster child even if
you need to make that happen yourself
making sure that gifts are even that
children are seated in the places that
they would be if they were a an however
you want to call a permanent part of
your family is really important we don't
Point children out and say oh that's
their foster kid or any of those other
pieces giving your family that language
in advance can help them to not make
mistakes that could cause a negative
impact in the
future the other thing I want you to
plan and think about is what you're
going to do to honor the time that the
children spend with you especially if
you have multiple Foster placements over
time
think about what kind of things your
family wants to do is it a garden is it
a photo album is it something else that
you might want to come together as a
family either with the child or after
the child leaves to remember the time
you've spent with them what are you
going to do to care for yourself after a
child leaves what might you need to do
for your family is there a special meal
a special trip a special movie something
like that to remind yourselves of the
good that you've done and take care of
yourselves a little bit in that time of
loss and then the last thing but
sometimes the most important thing you
can do is to make sure your friends and
family know how they can help one of the
most powerful things that I've done is
to sit with my friends and family and
say hey this child is coming I'm very
excited about this child being here
however there's going to be a time when
this kiddo leaves and what I would love
for you to do is offer to be with me
when the child leaves my home home bring
my family dinner the evening the child
leaves help me pack the child's
belongings give me someone to talk to
what I don't want you to do is to ask me
if I'm worried or give me ways that I
might be able to fight against the plan
unless I ask you for those things
sometimes the best thing you can do is
to tell people what you need so they're
ready to give
it we cannot let the fear of loving a
child that might leave deter
us we must let the fear of a child not
knowing love drive us and I truly
believe that I often say that if there
were no more foster children if children
were safe in their families I would I
would miss having little people around
but I would also be thrilled we remind
ourselves that there are children every
single day in need of our home stretch a
little bit if you thought you were only
going to take this age see what this age
feels like do rest bit for that age open
your doors as wide as you can knowing
that every action you take is beneficial
to the children we serve to their
families and also to your own family
thank you again for everything you do I
look forward to being a part of your
journey take good care of
yourself
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Video 60 Day Session: Sensory Strategies for New Caregivers
Video 60 Day Session: Sensory Strategies for New Caregivers
Video 60 Day Session: Sensory Strategies for New Caregivers
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good morning or good afternoon or good evening whatever time you're watching this thank you for joining me my name is
Charity Bell my pronouns are she her hers and I'm delighted to be with you for this next 45 minutes or so to talk
about sensory strategies for humans and we all interact with humans but as
foster parents we're going to be interacting with humans whose needs might be slightly different slightly
more complex and we have to think about how we fit those needs into our our own
or our family's current way of moving through the world a little bit about me I've been a
foster parent now for 25 years um I do a lot of work around the impact of
perception on the brain and caregiving and and the ways in which we interact with one another and one of the things
I'm most fascinated by is how different sensory strategies impact behavior and
impact perception of the environment around us so with that being said I look forward to spending a little bit of time
talking to you about sensory strategies for humans first I want you to imagine with
me I want you to take a deep breath settle into your seat close your eyes or
just lower your gaze if that feels better and I want you to imagine what it
would be like if one day someone came to your
house and told you you need needed to leave right
now what would you want to take with you you can pack a small bag but nothing
else you may not be going with the other people you love they may be
separated you've packed those items and now you're walking out the door with a
stranger and that stranger puts you in the car and tells you that you're going to stay in in foster
care you may not know what foster care is or you may know what foster care is
either way how would you feel what would you be thinking what
would you want to know you arrive at this new house and
the door opens and people come out to greet you what would you want to know
about them what would you be looking for what would you remember from what they
told you and what would you not remember evening comes it's getting dark
outside what would you want to know they've served a
meal what would be important to you about that meal you go to
bed they say good night what are the things that you might be thinking about
during the night both the emotional things and just the logistical
things coming into foster care is extraordinarily
complex come back to the the group open your eyes whatever it is you do but one
of the things we want to do is to settle ourselves into the perspective of the foster child or the
people around us it's very easy for us to see things from our own perspective we dwell in it every day however looking
at things from the perspective of of another person is one of the most powerful actions we can take whether
it's interacting with relatives or friends or family members colleagues at
work or children in foster
care I love this quote because it's one of those basic things that most people
look around and go yeah that's true that's how home works and what we know is that for children in foster care this
very basic conception of what home is is disrupted one of the things we know is
when a child goes into foster care when they go back home everything will be different if they go back home but the
likelihood is that if they're not able to go back home they may never see those things or interact with those things
again it makes sense that the children we interact with even the youth we interact with and when I say children I
mean everybody up to teenagers one of the things we know is that we often
overestimate the emotional maturity of the children we interact with especially
if they happen to be bigger in size a little bit more verbal we overestimate
what they're able to comprehend but also we overestimate what they're able to cope with home is wherever you leave
everything you love and never question that it will be there when you return in many ways when we look at it
that way foster children are homeless when people are Fe feeling
overwhelmed and out of sorts and lost it impacts the way they respond to the
world around them you know this for yourself when you're having a bad day anything can be the thing that pushes
you over the edge I mean I drink a lot of Dunkin' Donuts I don't know why but I
drink a lot of Dunkin Donuts even though I know that there's like a 50/50 chance that the coffee that I order exactly the
same way every single time a large iced coffee with cream three Sweet and Low
and coconut and vanilla shots will taste different every single time sometimes
it's great sometimes it's pond water and there are days when I drink
the pond water and I think H well there it is it's not the end of the world but there are other days when the traffic is
bad and the kids are loud and the boss is emailing where that drink is the
thing that just feels like it ruins my whole day and I'm irritable and upset it's about perspective we're going to be
looking at things from the from the perspective of the children who come into our
home day-to-day life is planned for well-regulated neurotypical non-traumatized securely
attached humans there are so many times as someone who experienced foster care
myself growing up and aged out of foster care without being connected permanently legally to a family where the things
that people say the things they talk about um I happen to be recording this at a time when a holiday is coming up
and people are talking about their family traditions I don't have family traditions there's no one in my life
right now who knew me before I was 13 years old I have no idea what happened before that so just the day-to-day
activities that happen the understanding that if you need a ride someplace you'll have it if you need a note card for a
presentation you can get it at home day-to-day life is planned for well-regulated kids
and that's really important for us to understand because we know that we do
not care for kids who are well well regulated so if we understand that then
what we have to pay attention to is that day-to-day life may need to be altered
for our kids to be able to make it through comfortably how are our kids different
they've experienced loss they experienced distrust and they should could experience distrust one of the
things I talk about is the fact that when someone has been burnt by a stove
it makes sense for them to be very careful around a stove and if someone came up and got burnt by their stove
every single day and didn't change how they interacted with that stove we would
worry about that person we would think they've been burnt six times now and they're still sticking their hand right
in the oven well if you're someone for whom relationships have been
painful wouldn't it make sense to avoid them it's our job to prove to these kids
that in fact we're not going to burn them and we may need to do that by
standing through or or working through a lot of times where kids act like they've
been burned accuse us for being burned until they're able to recognize that that's not happening anymore they have
fear issues they have sleeping habits issues the number of times that I have encountered 7-year-olds 8-year-olds
9-year-olds 12 yearolds who have never slept alone in a room some of whom have never slept alone
in a bed there nighttime may be a time when things in their house got loud and
people got angry they may be hypervigilant during the night and they experience anxiety whether clinically
diagnosed or simply a part of moving through life in a way that may feel so chaotic so we know that our kids
experience the the world differently we need to assume that additional supports are needed so one of
the things I kind of see people do sometimes is say well we're just going to see how it goes and then if so and so
needs more supports We'll add those in that's a hard thing to do because in
order for you to see that that child needs to fail in some ways so in order
for your child to see that your child oh we really do need to give her a schedule for the morning you find that out
because the child struggles during the morning it's so much easier to add in the
additional supports assume they're needed and then pull them back as you go
so one of the things I would say is that when kids first get to your house provide some structure provide a lot
more information than you think they might need and then you can back out as you get to know them a little bit
better so here's how we see the process a child gets to your home they get
settled they become a part of the daytoday and then they go to reunification or
permanency that's the process from our point of view however the process from a
child's point of view looks
different the first thing the child experiences is removal from family from relatives and from previous placement
their Journey Begins with trauma they get to your house and they need to go through grieving and loss and
and move through things and understand you it's like moving to a whole new culture and move to
acceptance they get settled but they have to get through being different they're a foster child in a house where
there may be no other foster kids in a family where there may be no other foster kids they have visits and those
visits are enjoyable and and needed and important but they're also hard we say
goodbye over and over they cope with trauma and they also see people have lives that they do not one of the things
I remember most vividly from my experiences in living with families that were not my own was how angry I was at
how safe and easy their life seemed it was amazing to me I was 10 before I
realized that people's lives look different from mine and when I first realized it I felt so betrayed I was so
upset that I did not get to have this kind of day-to-day life and I will say
that in my anger I acted out I disrupted things I I I I ruined things because I
just felt so frustrated by the ease and how I had never experienced that before jealousy is
intense then they become part of that day-to- day but there's always a piece in the back of their head for the vast
majority of our kids because we know that reunification is the goal for most of our kids where they're thinking about
that fact of what is the next Next Step what is the next step they're either going to be
reunified or go to a kinship placement or go on for adoption which means that
they lose you or they go home they stay with you excuse me or
they stay with you which means they lose the other parts of their family and if you are not very careful about expanding
the circle of people that care for that child by including biological family as
far as is safe that loss is very real and they need to go through that loss
and grief and acceptance again the process looks different from the point
of view of the children in your home one of the things I have never ever
forgotten is that um I was interacting with a foster child who had come with
her family to a support group and she was newly in the home and I asked her at
the end of the evening who she sorry it still makes me tear up who she was there
with and she said I don't know their names she'd been with the family for
over a week and she didn't know anybody's name she said the kids call them mom and dad they call each other
honey I don't know what their names are it stuck with me this idea that that
we overestimate what they take in and we way overestimate the questions that they
feel safe asking and so I went and found out and I spoke to the parents and I
asked them to remind the child wear name tags but what we actually ended up doing
this was a child who was eight or nine and old enough to read is doing pictures of everybody in the family including
extended relatives who came often and putting it on the fridge with the name
some of the nicknames that person was called and then the relationship to the family and that was a very helpful tool
for this child who I can't imagine what it felt like to just be wandering around and they'd be like oh Tom is coming over
later I don't know who Tom is who are you going home with I don't know their
names when we look at things from the perspective of the children in our home it becomes clear that we should be
surprised when they are not out of sorts not when they are so General strategies sensory
strategies start from the very beginning before the child even enters your home a
clear introduction to you in your home creating written or visual routines depending on the age of the child and
what they're able to take in mirroring communication about identity and next steps that means everybody in your home
uses the same language when your mom is able to keep you safe when your
grandmother gets all the paperwork that she needs to get to for the social worker we can go to next steps when your
social worker comes back we'll know a little bit more and we share that with everybody else so that we all have the
same language a visual calendar is really important kids like to know
what's coming up securely attached kids may feel comfortable with not
necessarily knowing what's going to happen tomorrow not necessarily knowing what's happening for the weekend however kids who are insecurely
attached and kids who have regular events in their lives that are distressing like visits or social worker
interactions or things like that they deserve to be able to look at a calendar and begin to prepare themselves know
when those things are happening and then regular check-ins and reminders how are you doing is there anything you need
help with can I remind you what tomorrow looks like all of these things will
allow us to be seen as a source of safety and a source of information for
the kids in our ha and that will lower the overall level of distress they feel
and begin to allow them to work within your family in a way that feels comfortable for
everyone I want us to think a little bit about the escalation cycle because this is an important piece of looking at the
way kids come into our home one of the things we want to look at is the Baseline the basine is when someone is
engaged in an activity that they enjoy that they feel successful at that and
that they they feel comfortable doing it's incompatible with escalation so if
I'm sitting comfortably on the couch and reading a book it's unlikely that I'm also about to run around and hit someone
the ways in which we get to know our foster kids allow us to offer them Baseline activities a place where you
feel safe and comfortable activities that you can engage in that you enjoy and that you feel good doing and also
permission to do those things so we want to get that in place as quickly as possible and then we pay attention to
the triggers um we often look at Behavior independent of triggers I will tell you hang hungry angry lonely tired
good Lord bored um looking for those triggers is often far more successful
than punishing a child for responding to triggers offer people something to drink
something to eat an activity and a nap you'd be amazed at how far you get and that's all ages myself included if you
see me and I seem irritable feel free to offer me a snack and a nap you'd be amazed at what a difference it
makes then we look at how we get to crisis and then deescalation those focusing on calming strategies don't
rehashing the incident and you may want to we'll give you the the packet of this so you can look at this more often but
the most important piece of this is the caregiver response if the caregiver
escalates as well everything moves faster up the curve caregivers must modulate their own
responses if you don't control your own response if you don't model calm behavior and you don't use
non-threatening body language you make things worse it's that simple I don't expect
you to be Saints I do expect you to practice good self-care and we'll talk about that so you're at your own
Baseline understand when you need help understand when you need an additional person if there's not an additional
adult in your life figure out ways to add those people in good self-care is one of the most important
things about being a foster parent I can't emphasize it
enough trauma truth um people recreate what is familiar to them if a child is
familiar with chaos in their home and suddenly they're placed in a safe environment free of chaos she will seek
and provoke The Familiar stress in the new environment to keep safe it makes me so sad but what we know
is that kids don't necessarily believe that things are going to stay non-chaotic and in their mind triggering
the chaos as opposed to waiting to see when it's going to start you know if someone told you at some point over the
next 24 hours I'm going to punch you and you couldn't get away from that
punch you knew it was coming would you rather spend the 24 hours waiting for
someone to punch you or would you rather they just did it right then and got it over with and it was
done I'm hoping you're saying I'm thinking you're saying that you'd rather just get it over with because it doesn't
make sense to carry that anxiety and that burden you know it's going to happen let's just get it over with many
of our kids feel the same way I've had kids say to me so I know you're going to
yell at me eventually just do it that's not how I interact with people
and I'm sorry that that's been your experience in the past but that's just not what I do and I want you to know
that there's not many situations in which I would yell and the situations in which I would yell are safety situations
if you're running towards the road if something else is happening you're going to hear me
yell those are the times that that's appropriate but I think it's important to understand that kids are just waiting
for the shoe to drop many times so how do you help I've told you
so much about what the challenges are but now I want to tell you that you are enormously powerful in this cycle the
first thing we're going to do is identify the challenges it's almost like being a nature Observer um a friend of
mine has the amazing job of working in a zoo no idea um I would love to work in a
zoo and she works in a zoo and she was working with um a a a a primate that was
soon to give birth and her job was to note every five minutes what that animal
was doing you know every five minutes Gathering snacks sitting quietly moving
to the side interacting with another animal and by doing that they could identify very early signs of changes or
distress in many ways what we do as foster parents is the same we're
assessing behaviors we're looking for deviations we're looking for triggers we're looking for times and events and
and situations that prevent present challenges so the first thing we're going to do is identify the challenges
when do they happen what's the SI the situation what's the
stimulus what what is happening for that kid when they begin to struggle because that's how we know how to choose a
solution and there may be many tries with Solutions and then look back and
try again so the first thing we're going to do is identify this cannot be random the
strategies that we choose cannot be random so we need to try certain things and I will say you know one of the
things we know about sensory diets we can all benefit from a sensory diet you can Google sensory diet there's tons of
great videos I'm not worried that you're going to be able to find information but what we know is that states of being
states of feeling have opposite and equal responses that help calm those states of
being we know that when we feel anxious I know for myself I don't know what fixes you I actually hear that there are
people who when they feel really stressed and anxious go for a run that sounds that is literally the
worst possible thing that'll be further punishment that is not my choice I always say I don't know what you need
when you're anxious but if you tell me I'll try to give it to you if you want to go for a run I'll find your shoes for
me I want to cuddle up with a book I want a cup of tea I want to be in a space that feels
safe so we know we can add things in we have lots of kids who love fidgets who
love weighted blankets who want to take a hot bath one of the things I often do with kids is a hot bath and a cold
popsicle somehow that combination of warm water and the cold in the mouth
calms all the sensory stuff down and there's a scientific reason that works but we don't need to know we just need
to know it works um music or white noise bouncing or jumping the number of manyi
trampolines we've gone through in my house over the 25 years of fostering it's
uncountable um I I don't know how they do it but many kids in my house jump on the trampoline while they watch their
show in the evening helps them calm down dimmed lights oral motor so kids who
were chewing on things kids who are biting can put things in there um meal options bold favor flavors spicy flavors
I have a kid who when they really really struggle they eat really spicy chips like those ones that burn your mouth I
said why are you eating those and he said I don't know it just makes me feel better it calms me down again that is
not the answer for me I would need so many Tums I'd have to buy stock in the company but for him that's what he
needed and he was able to figure that out and I had a lifetime supp L of those hideous chips in my cabinet so when he
needed them he could go get them one of the other things I want to
talk about is the idea of trust trust is earned it's not given the moment a child
walks through the door remember we talked a little bit about the the idea of the hot
stove unfortunately many kids in foster care have been burnt multiple times by
multiple different PE people including some foster parents for some of them it doesn't make sense for them to
trust us immediately and I would will often say out loud to kids who are older and able to comprehend Hey listen I know
it might be hard for you to trust me I want to earn your trust I want you to
know that I don't often make promises because I don't want to fail you so what
I'm going to tell you is what I believe is going to happen but we also know that
I'm not the boss of everything that's going on and things may change I also want you to know that I'm a safe person
I don't hit I really don't yell very often unless it's a safety issue you can
come to me and tell me things if you break something you can tell me we'll figure it out together what I want you
to know the most is that I want to know when you begin to struggle when you're
in an irritable mood when things are starting to feel uncomfortable cuz I want to help you get back to a space
where you feel safe before things get out of control let's talk let's figure this out
but also I hope you'll let me prove that I can be trusted and when you feel like I've done
something that makes me untrustworthy I hope you'll tell me this is not a magic potion you know
it's not a a a fairy tale where the child then goes oh my beloved caregiver
thank you so much I I've had kids tell me to blank off but providing the
message is really important but more important is standing standing strong in
that message apologizing when we do things incorrectly taking responsibility
for our actions being honest being open being approachable trust is
earned and then trust is given so what we want to do is then explain to the
child how they can move through our family and earn trust as well well you know she may
not want to share that toy with you because she's not totally comfortable because last time you had her toy you
broke it I'm wondering if you want to show her by playing with your own toys
or loaning her one of your toys that you can be trusted with that toy now that
that was a a thing that happened when you were in a a different place and now you're more safe help them learn how to
gain Trust and then we just repeat that cycle over and over and over again it's like any
relationship we prove our trust to one another in the tiny moments and in the
huge moments every single day one of the things it's hard for us to recognize
sometimes especially if you're new to fostering and you've had children that have been in your home since since birth
or since early in their lives they have that secure attachment and often they
have a true they want to please you because
they love you they care about you and your responses matter to them that's not
always the case with children in foster care they don't know you they don't love
you and gaining your approval is not necessarily the first thing in their in
their heads trying to figure out what the heck just happened and stay safe is the first
thing and I often think of this and please don't ever think that I'm comparing children in foster care to
animals in a shelter because I'm not I was a child in foster care
um but I often think of the way that that we are so carefully taught um I
don't know if any of you have ever adopted a Shelter Pet but it's not easy to do um you have to kind of go through
the paperwork similar to what you might have done you have to have interviews and things like that but we are so they
are so clear and aggressive I have friends who work at at animal rescues and they're so intense about saying to
the family you may not judge this Animal by how it acts in the first week in the
first month even the first couple months in your home if you're going to get rid of this
animal because it doesn't act the way you think it should in the first three months we will not give you an animal
think about that the shelters tell us that when an
animal comes to your home they may need three months or more to be able to
settle in many of those animals have experienced loss and neglect and Trauma
and the animal rescue folks are trauma informed enough to know that we need you
to commit to things being challenging that dog might poop in the house and
that dog might go hide and that dog might cringe when you come near it and it might wake up during the night it
might do all sorts of things that are not what you got a dog for and yet they're telling you in no
uncertain terms ride it out we think it'll be worth it what we know is that
in three months maybe a little bit more maybe less
that creature will show itself to be what it actually is when it's not afraid when
it's not overwhelmed so one of the things I really hope that we'll pay attention to is this idea that are
expectations should absolutely be for the first several weeks it's intense
this person is learning a whole new way in your home and the better job you do
of creating routines of community ating of responding with compassion and
understanding the faster that that initial time frame will
pass but never forgetting that they have reason to not trust and we have work to
do to earn
trust one of the things I pay attention to is how carefully we can stick to
schedules in our home when a child arrives for the first time we want to make sure that over that next week or so
things are as predictable as they can possibly be we're not shifting things up that's not the time you know the first
three days that a child is in your home is not the time to say to yourself oh you know what I said this morning that
we were going to get McDonald's for dinner but instead I think I'll make a pot
roast try not to shift things try not to sh share share things around remember
we're building trust we build trust by making a promise and keeping a promise and making a promise and keeping a
promise and making a promise and keeping a promise if you tell a child you're going to pick them up at three be there
at five minutes of three that's how trust begins I am so
enamored of the pile the the of the power of ritual excuse me I put rituals
in my day-to-day life for myself but I put rituals into the day-to-day life of my children as well it might be that in
the morning when I wake a kid up I spend one or two minutes sitting on the side of their bed we talk about their night
we talk about their dreams we talk about the day we get things ready I've had
other kids where we've had a self-esteem chant I'm I'm powerful and I'm hopeful
and I'm strong whatever they want it to be other times we've done top to bottom
check where that kid is really anxious about not not having everything they need to have so every day we start from
the very top did you brush your hair do you have your glasses did you brush your teeth did you put on deodorant do you
have a shirt on that gets Giggles clean underwear pants socks shoes do you have
your bag do you have your math homework from yesterday do you have your lunch so that that child leaves not feeling the
anxiety of perhaps having forgotten something but NOS we did it top to bottom you're good we did it top to
bottom you're good you may also have a car snack I
work with many families that have car snacks so what they do when they get in the car is the kids will all eat some Cheerios or something like that while
they listen to a m to music or to a book on tape audio books are amazing for
filling time in cars and times when people may escalate they may be nervous some people do familiar audio books I
will say I my son listens to the same Audi book every single night um actually
he has a couple he listens to the Martian which was a movie with Matt Damon that you may have seen but there's a book of it um so he listens to that
book he might listen to ready player one but he listens to the same book over and over again and sometimes I can hear him
saying the the the passages out loud with the book that's what he likes that's what he
enjoys you may when you get home ritual after school is really important um or
reconnect ing rituals after daycare Etc getting everybody back together you may do a dance party everybody may be
overwhelmed and intense and things like that you might all gather with a snack and do a book on CH on T on tape or you
may do something that is completely separate you may a friend of mine does activity boxes so each kid she has four
kids in her home each kid has an activity box that she puts a snack a
book a a music player something else and everybody takes 15 minutes on their own
because all of her kids have experienced trauma all of her kids have experienced loss getting back to the house is
intense and she has found that if everybody takes 15 minutes when they get
home to be calm wrap yourself in a weighted blanket or a cozy blanket or
sit with the cat or whatever you need to do and then at the end of the 15 minutes she Rings a soft Bell and people move
into their day that's the strategy she put in place you may need to do a onetoone check-in with each person
you'll figure out what works and then in the evening evenings can be very challenging for people um a lot of
sadness can come up in the evening a lot of things that have been held back or people just break they've been holding
on to it all day long and then when bedtime comes everything
explodes pay attention to that soft jammies alone time together time morning
planning talking about best worst time on a trampoline time with a weighted
blanket you'll figure it out but if you're like every evening is chaos then I'm going to say I'm so sorry
to hear that what are you doing what is your current strategy because you have
to keep trying new things but once you establish a ritual keep doing it do it
over and over again and then if you have to break the ritual announ it hey guys I
want you to know that we usually do our 15 minutes by ourselves when we get home from school to school each day but today
Joey has a doctor's appointment so when we get out of school we're not going to go straight home we're all going to go
to Joey's doctor's appointment and after that we're going to go to
McDonald's just advertise it in advance the surprised is not
helpful identify challenges as opposed to disparaging the child not he's
aggressive but in the morning he can really be intense sometimes he lashes
out if everybody goes to put their shoes on at the same time he can punch people if they touch his
shoes that's a much easier thing to strategize around we're not going to say
she can't play with other kids let's talk about the times that she has been successful playing with other kids or
let's talk about what happen s right when she stops being able to play with other kids that's where our strategies
come from I have lots and lots of kids who can do parallel play if everybody
has their own um tray of stuff but cannot share if
you put one thing of crayons in the center that is going to end disastrously every single time if everybody has their
own thing of crayons you're good to go so paying attention to the challenges
allows you to insert strategies not necessarily she's a mess after of a visit I hate visits every
time she comes home she's a mess visits are integral to the foster
care process and sometimes they go well and sometimes they don't go well and
sometimes when they go well they still don't feel like they go well they're saying goodbye to somebody every single
time and one of the things that I would love to try and help people figure out is how to do therapeutic visits but for
now now there are times when it's going to be hard so we're not just going to say she's a disaster after every visit
we're going to try and figure out what she needs so one day when she gets home from a visit you may try being ready
with her favorite book and something to eat and something to drink and her blanket so she can sit quietly if that
doesn't work you might be ready with the blanket on the couch and the book and you sit together if that doesn't work
you might stop at a park on the way home so she can run around around for a little while identify challenges and then try a
strategy I don't try a strategy just once I often try it three times unless it's clearly a disaster it may take even
more so sometimes I'll be like I don't know might be getting better if you
think it might be working keep doing it it's not going to be immediate I wish I could give you miracles I wish I could
give you a magic wand I wish for a magic wand all the time sometimes I go into my kitchen when it's a mess and I go bing
bing bing just to see if I might be magic but I'm
not we have to do the work I will say though for myself when
things are really really challenging knowing that I'm trying some strategies makes me feel a little bit more in
control and a little bit more hopeful when you're identifying
Solutions we're looking at a few different strategies can we avoid this
you know can can we avoid all the kids gathering at the end of the hallway to put their shoes on can we avoid sharing
crayons what can we avoid let's mitigate it can we can we make it easier can we
make it quieter can we make it less intense how can we kind of put things in that'll soften this experience can we
insert the opposite if things are really noisy when this kid is doing this they
struggle can we insert quiet or can can we prepare the child for situations that
they struggle with um forecasting preparing often kids do really well I've
had kids who've done really well with little cards that they can keep with them that show them each thing that's
going to happen during the day I had kid for the longest time I would print out
everything that was going to happen during the day every class they were going to everything else and they would X them off as they happened and it made
them feel more in control and sometimes they text me they'd be like four more things I can do four more things I like
you're you've got this you can do four more things and sometimes they text me and say four more things I cannot do
four more things and I'd say you know go to the guidance office give me a call let's
figure out what those four things are and let's figure out where we get through preparing them and offering them
strategies is the kindest thing and I will tell you that kid is now 25 years old and he still uses that
strategy and he's working and he's out in the world and things like that so what we're actually doing is preparing
people for life then we have to implement those
strategies and that is is hard to do sometimes because it's extra work if it
wasn't extra work you'd already be doing it so waking up 10 minutes earlier and running around the house and pjs for
five minutes or bouncing for 5 minutes means you may have to get that kid up 10 minutes earlier which may throw off your
entire schedule ual first of all don't set up strategies
that you can't keep going with um you know don't set up a strategy that says every morning the whole family is going
to wake up together we're going to get dressed we're going to go for a lovely walk around the neighborhood while we
discuss current events don't do that unless you are one
of those amazing families that actually can do that don't do that set up strategies that you can
maintain do that audio book or music in the car but then set it up and do it
every time or providing calming options in advance of a challenging situation
keep a sensory box with you keep snacks with you keep you know I I will tell you
the amount of crap that I C around especially in the times when I was taking sibling groups or teen moms or
things like that it was ridiculous I had a sensory box for each kid I had snack boxes for each kid it was easier to just
pull them out but it was also easier to teach that kid I would have kids come to me and be like I need a squishy I need a
squishy if I'm going to sit for longer I need a squishy that's awesome if you can
identify what helps you you are ready for the world I'm not going to lie to you many adults I know are still trying
to figure that out but then we have to have access to them and then we can evaluate and try
again older kids can help if you approach them when they're calm
we do this weird thing where we try to ask people what went wrong while it's still going wrong why are you acting
this way why are you so upset what happened they don't know it's still happening they're still overwhelmed
they're still upset they're still angry and then we do this other thing where we think well it's over now let's not bring
it up but in fact what what we know in our
heads is that planning for Hard Times happens when things are
quiet that's why we plan for emergencies that's why we do fire drills so we want
to kind of do emotional fire drills sometimes we're not going to go through all the challenges we want to say Hey
you know let's think about this you went to school you had a hard day Joe said something you didn't like all those
other things what are some of the things that you could do what are some of the things that I should have in the car or
two days ago Jack took took a toy away from you and you did great what do you
think you was happening that you did so well ask questions how did it feel when
this happened did you know in advance were you feeling irritable and angry beforehand all of kids some say to me
sometimes listen I was having a bad morning and then you asked me that and that was it well then what I need you to do is
start communicating with me if you're having a hard time let's fix it at the beginning you know not for nothing
although this isn't totally true but the time to bring your car to the mechanic is when you hear a funny noise not when
the engine dies I'm saying that as I'm know that I'm hearing a funny noise in my car and
I haven't brought it in yet but we do want to intervene early and then we want to ask the kids
themselves what could have helped what could I have done differently what could they have done differently what could
you have done differently what might have helped talking about hard times is how
we learn how to handle them
the other thing I want to think about is volitional versus non-volitional Behavior so one of the things we know is
that kids who've experienced trauma kids who are highly anxious um kids who have
ADHD kids who have autism all sorts of things it causes them to react before
they're able to develop a response so we see here my beloved Buddy the elf and
Buddy the elf knows that that Jack in the Box is going to come out it's going to startle him
but he still responds non-volitional which means without choosing to or
without him being able to control it by getting scared and if we told him
no matter what you do you may not get scared I don't know if he could do that
volitional behavior is the behavior that we choose non-volitional Behavior
child doing this intentionally is an important thing and to be honest with ourselves sometimes we
attribute intention he likes it when I'm like this he's doing it to push my
buttons let's step back a little bit and make sure that we're really looking at it from the child's point of view our
perception and their perception are very
different disrupted nervous systems love routine they love love routine they love
predictability um this is something that you should have available in your home
you should kind of be able to identify your own schedule your own bedtime routines your own beforetime routines
and you can do this for any age as a family this is what we do I can help you
with this the goal is for you to be ready and waiting or to be downstairs to
get something to eat at 7:20 what does that mean you need to do before that and how can I help you that'
be for an older child for a younger child you want to kind of display the whole piece I've had kids who really for
some reason I had a family that called me and they were like he won't go back upstairs to brush his
teeth he comes downstairs we eat breakfast he needs to go back upstairs to brush his teeth and he will not go
back upstairs to brush his teeth and I asked like so what is the goal what is the task you're trying to
get accomplished and they said we want him to brush his teeth his teeth have been neglected and I said do you have a
sink downstairs and they said yes and I said try having him brush his teeth downstairs tomorrow and they did and he
would why wouldn't he go back upstairs I don't know and I don't necessarily need to
know what I need to identify is that the goal is not to have the child obey me
when I say go upstairs the goal is to have the child brush their teeth and
there are multiple ways to get to that end point so once you figure out what your goals are you can put in place some
strategies figure out what works but predictability o disrupted nervous
systems love ritual and routine predictability the the same thing over
and over again the same book the same story I had kids who I had to say the
same I would say okay everybody's here everybody's ready does everybody
have their shoes their lunch their bag their hat and then if it was summertime
they'd say we don't need hats all right everybody look around
does anybody see someone that doesn't have everything they need all right all
good and they would yell all good and we'd go to the car and the times when we were running late and I tried to skip
that were not all good and I finally realized that the three minutes that I
put into that ritual were much better spent than the 10 minutes I spent trying to drag a kid
out of the car because everyone didn't say all good disrupted nervous systems love
routine if you call me and I'm happy to have you call me um if you call me and
you say this is what's happening and I ask you what you've tried and you say well we just keep telling him he needs
to do it I'm going to refer you back to this quote you have to be flexible
Foster parenting is the essence of having to be flexible try something new
try something different reach out to someone else for ideas it's really hard to see new ideas it's hard for me too
when I'm in it when I'm struggling and overwhelmed I don't just rely on my own Noggin I'll call another foster parent
I'll call a friend and say I'm stuck this mom and I are at loggerheads
she doesn't trust me I'm frustrated every interaction we have ends badly I
need help and it's been amazing how much
people have been able to help me and sometimes they'll say things and I'll think why didn't I think of that it's
really hard to think of how to get out of the crisis when you're in the crisis let's just remind ourselves of that the
number of times that I have been irritable with people and mean because I'm hungry but I never thought of eating
somebody else would be like shouldn't you get a snack and I'm like oh even the simplest answers don't come
to us when we're the one in the problem if you're not trying a strategy
nothing's going to change it's not magic you can't just keep fighting through it you have to try something
identify a couple challenges don't try to fix everything at once pick the things that are most disruptive and work
on those and success breeds success sometimes we'll see the morning routine get handled and then all of a sudden the
afternoon routine is okay success breeds
success it's really hard to not take it personally it's really hard to not feel
disrespected to not feel ignored to not
feel like you're not kids aren't aren't giving you your
due especially if you have other children in your home who have been securely attached and who do respect you
and do trust you and do provide you with that it's not about you when a child's
being defiant they are being defiant to every other time they got burnt they're
being defiant to the fact that they had to leave their home they're being defying to the fact that they will never
see those Spider-Man sheets again it's not about you and when you
take it personally you reduce your ability to be helpful it actually reduces your access
to thoughtful responses so one of the first things I'm going to do if you call me and tell me the child is
disrespectful I'm going to ask you disrespectful to who this is a child in crisis this is a
child in trauma and it is almost never about you now if you're doing something
to elicit that then let's figure that out but most of the time people are just working through stuff you know the
person at the Dunkin Donuts who is you know a little snarky a little unkind a
little mean it's not about you they're just having a bad day and you happen to be near them I often say people are
having a bad day near you and you get to decide whether you make it about
you it's not about you you as a foster parent as a human
but as a foster parent you you take on an additional responsibility to model self-care take breaks ask for time out
find other Foster families you can swap kids with them you can all play together engage your family members and Friends
plan self-care during visits the one thing I'll often see is people will use visit times to get work done and get
stuff done and maybe you don't have to maybe you can take an hour during that time to relax do something for yourself
engage in a quiet activity with your with the other children that are in your home and things like that take breaks
the number of times that I have said to the kid I want to talk to you about this but this is not a good time for me to
talk to you about it so I'm going to take five minutes and I'm going to come back in five minutes everything is okay
you're safe I'm safe I just need to make my brain slow down so that I can
think I've said to older kids you know what I'm I'm really upset right now I'm going to go take 10 minutes because it's
my responsib ability to keep myself in control so that we can work through this
and I can't do that right now I've also called friends and said you know what if you could come over any time today for
an hour I just need to go lock myself in my bedroom and watch two episodes of the
office I'm really lucky I have friends who will do that I hope you do too and I
will say priming them in advance is a good way to do that
that we all have a self-created sensory diet so your homework right now is to
figure about the things that you have built into your sensory life that work for you I get up before anybody else in
my family I go upstairs I feed the cat I make a cup of tea I do that no matter
who's in my home if the baby has to be fed at 5:30 in the morning that means that I may have to to get up at 5: to do
that but I am not an enjoyable person to be around without my cup of tea I also
know that when I get home and everything feels chaotic I get distressed unless
I've taken a few minutes so there's a pond about 10 minutes from my house I often stop at the pond look out at the
water kind of put away the stuff from work in my brain and get ready for dealing with everything at
home knowing what you need knowing what you've put in place place and then knowing that some of those things may
get disrupted or shifted what do you need to do you might need to divide and conquer if you're kids need a quiet
getting ready time in the morning and your foster child is excitable you might need to figure out how to do that you
might need to say okay I'm going to get our foster child ready over here while my kids get over ready over here if
you're parenting on your own other things might happen you might ask someone to come over for a little while and help you and then we want to just
make sure that we're included we're making space for and adding in what we
need you know that piece where you know especially for families who are taking in like school age foster kids there
might be a time where you say good night to the school age foster kids and then you might go to the other kids' rooms
and settle in with them a little bit so figuring out how people get individual time I am a big one for taking kids in
the car with me um I happen to be parenting with someone else now I parented as a single parent for the
first night N9 years and now I parent with someone else and so that was a big thing for me now if I have multiple kids
in my home then we're going to switch off who goes for a ride with me sometimes I'll be like yeah so and so seems off I'm going to go put gas in the
car hey come with me I'm gonna go to the gas station you know you come with me so getting some one-on-one time adding that
stuff in things that came naturally in the past you may need to do deliberately now I would love for you as an
individual or as a family to figure out what are the things that you've put in place what are the ways that you care
for yourself what are the ways that you go about your day that make you feel secure that make you feel safe that make
you feel comfortable so you'll get this this form
and these packets so I'll I'll I hope that you'll take some time to do
that this is hard but amazing work I've done a lot of things in my
life I was actually a peace score volunteer and I don't know if you know but the peace score motto is the
toughest job you'll ever love and I enjoyed being a peace score volunteer and it was really
hard fostering is the toughest job I've ever loved I love that I know that there are
people in distress and I can help them I'd be thrilled if there was no need for foster parents but I'm not sure we're
ever going to get there so for now now it is my honor and my privilege to be a
part of helping people move through chaos move through hard times in a way
that demonstrates that there is safety in the world there is comfort in the world and whether you stay with me for a
week or you stay with me for a year I know that that child has grown that
child has learned things um when I first started I fostered Little People
medically little people and these little people would leave and I would be so sad
and a social worker said to me that what a child learns when they're with you is what love looks
like what safety looks like and even though they're going to leave they're
leaving with the ability to identify in the next person what that looks like it
may not be the same soft voice it may not be the same cuddling it may not be
the same laughter but they'll recognize that those are the things that indicate
love I will tell you for myself I watched my foster
parents to learn what safety looked like to learn what a good marriage looked
like to learn what healthy parenting looked like and I use those lessons
every single day I may not have been able to stay with them for long I may not have been adopted by them but the
lessons they taught me last and they mattered and they're important I would not be here if it
wasn't for them you are providing an extraordinary gift whether you Foster one or two
children whether you adopt or whether you do this for the Long Haul the work you do is important we're here to
support you other foster parents and the agency itself thank you so much take
really good care of yourself and I look forward to talking to you
again
Video 90 Day Session: Working with DCYF to Achieve Reunification
Video 90 Day Session: Working with DCYF to Achieve Reunification
Video 90 Day Session: Working with DCYF to Achieve Reunification
Transcript of video:
i never thought that oh me i would never
get my kids taken away i don't beat them
i don't you know use drugs in front of
them i always thought that it was okay
if i used in the basement and they
didn't see me
after many many warnings ultimately
they
removed our kids because
i got arrested
you know she was like i'm sorry but
you know it's time to
remove the children you know
and i had to go downstairs and
tell my 11 year old daughter that
um i'm sorry honey but they are taking
you and it was like she looked at me
like
she
kind of knew i mean she was 11 too i
think she just
knew that
it was gonna happen
it's difficult to
not be
angry
all the time because i don't have you
know we didn't have control over any of
it you know um
and i didn't realize that the only
control we did have was to just let go
and let them help us
um it took months and months of fighting
you know and
i feel like if we just accepted that
help right away
i don't think it would have taken a year
and a half for us to get them back
ashley was incredible she was amazing
with the kids
the kids loved her
it took hannah
a little bit of time to like start you
know trust her
ashley
she just made me feel
comfortable
you know with the whole thing
she made me feel like
i could do this
she really wanted all of us together
again
and um i i really don't think
that i would have
done this
if it weren't for her i i really don't
like i could
i could cry because
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i was um
we were just really really
blessed to have her
one two
one my husband and i needed to get
treatment we couldn't stay clean too so
then we ended up at a silver living
place for three months um and we were
going to court on the phone
without dcyf
i think i would have been dead dead or
in jail i think my husband would have
been dead or in jail i think that they
changed my life
they changed my family in so many ways
my daughter
the conversation came up and and she
looked at me and she said
if
this didn't happen
i don't i don't know where i would have
been
she also said that she was grateful that
it did happen
i mean
you you wouldn't think that a kid would
say
oh i'm glad that
i went to foster care
you know um
you know she said that like
i have my mom now
dcyf just wants to help they just want
to help you work with your children
better they want to
help you get your children back they
don't want to keep them from you
which i always
that's what i thought
um
so that's what made me fight them
and
when i finally just accepted the help
that's when i realized
what they were actually trying to do for
me and
it changed my life
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you
Video 90 Day Session: Father Engagement Action Team
Video 90 Day Session: Father Engagement Action Team
Video 90 Day Session: Father Engagement Action Team
Transcript of video:
my name is jay suarez my name is eddie
torres mark rolon i am part of the
father engagement action team which is
also known as feet we do a lot of work
with parent partners and
different individuals from the community
and dcyf staff to help improve father
engagement in our cases and our
assessments i am a parent leader with
the
new hampshire parent partner program i
strongly believe that dads should be
involved in their kids lives when it is
safe to do so i mean every kid deserves
to have both parents involved in their
lives you know that if a father is
actively involved
in the raising of their children
that child
benefits
with stronger cognitive skills
it affects their confidence they become
more social
they feel protected their self-esteem is
higher they're happier the love of a dad
can mean so much but traditionally a
father shouldn't have to fight
to be on equal grounds with the mothers
and that's what we're trying to change
and that's why i'm here
to advocate for fathers
ultimately to benefit my children
the idea is very simple fathers matter
too and that's what we're trying to do
with this group well father's day to me
is a day to celebrate
dads that are involved in their kids
lives
dads that have honor and integrity and
righteousness so father's day to me is
being that dad being the the father
that's there loving their child and
celebrating the other dads that i have
come in contact with i pull certain
things from them that i see as qualities
and bring it into myself as a father and
and i really do appreciate them the past
fathers that i've worked with because
they are they're helping me be a father
as well
but i have lots of father's days
going to the father-daughter dance with
my daughter that's a father's day
graduation for my kids
that's a father's day
going to a baseball game my middle son
saying
dad you need to live for a long time
and i asked him why and he said because
i'm going to need advice for a long time
that's a father's day and walking side
by side with dads i wish more men do it
because what iron sharpens iron
i strongly believe that there's a lot of
dads that can reach their full potential
dads can redeem themselves sometimes
we're in the dark we always need someone
to be the light and to show us the way
Video 90 Day Session: Partnering With Parents for System Change
Video 90 Day Session: Partnering With Parents for System Change
Video 90 Day Session: Partnering With Parents for System Change
Transcript of video:
Robert (Tony) Parsons: Jamie Brooks: Mark Rolon: Hey everybody, this is Tony Parsons with the Capacity Building Center for States, co-host of this amazing podcast series by and about people with lived experience in child welfare and about their partnerships with leaders within those agencies. You know, in the last couple episodes I talked with folks from Nevada about power sharing and how authentically engaging youth and young adults makes our system better. But in this next episode, you'll hear from my co-host Jamie Brooks in a conversation with a couple of our friends from New Hampshire. So literally the other side of the country about how partnering with parents, is making the difference in that child welfare system. So without further ado, here's Jamie and our friends. Welcome back everybody to this episode of Looking Inside Sharing Power and Child Welfare Podcast. Today I have two guests who have been working together for a few years. Mark Rolon, who is one of New Hampshire's family leaders in child welfare, and Geraldo Pilarski, the administrator of New Hampshire's Parent Partner Program. So welcome to you both. I'm so excited to have you here and to be having this conversation. I've really been looking forward to hearing about all the good work you've been doing. So, Mark, we can start with you. Do you want to tell us a little bit about your work in New Hampshire as a family leader? Sure. I guess I should give a little bit of background. I'm happily married. I better get this right. 25 years. [laughs] This year is 25 years. I have four kids. About two years ago, really, because of mental health issues, one of my sons got involved in the juvenile justice system. Through the course of the time he was in the system, I thought there were mistakes made by a lot of different parties. Eventually, we got through it, but I was an upset dad. I was [laughs]… I had choice words for a few people. But it was at that time when I was, I had had it. We had closed out the case, but I was invited by my son's probation officer to talk to Geraldo and join, at the time, was their Better Together team in New Hampshire. They wanted to hear my story. And I guess that's how it all started. I went to a meeting. When I got to that meeting, I was nervous. [laughs] I couldn't understand why they would possibly want to hear anything I had to say cause none of it was going to be good. But I was intrigued. I was like, I'll go check it out. I don't have anything to lose. So I went to that A Look Inside Sharing Power Podcast: Episode 4 Transcript Jamie Brooks: Geraldo Pilarski: first meeting. I got to that first meeting. There was staff there. There was, more importantly, a lot of other parents there. Other fathers, other mothers. There was really no pressure. I was sharing at my convenience. I listened to other people share their stories. And I realized that I wasn't the only person. Right away, I found pieces in other fathers' other parents' stories that related to mine. And I was able to share. When I was able to share, I found a certain amount of healing in that. And probably just right there from the start, I felt better, and I realized that maybe there's something to this. Yeah. I started I guess you could call my career with the state. [laughter] Yes. So, thank you for that, Mark. I'm so glad you were able to sort of overcome some questions. Why am I here? Do I belong here, things. And go to that table and sit and, offer your expertise because that's so important. And Geraldo, what about you? How would you sort of sum up your work for the last few years in New Hampshire? Yeah. Jamie, thank you for inviting us. And I'm just so honored to be on this space, sharing this space and with my colleague Mark. It's been a phenomenal journey. I can tell you that my involvement with the Division for Children, Youth, and Families started 15 years ago when I started working for the state. And so now I serve as an administrator, and I oversee all of our efforts to integrate people with lived experience and family voice, and kind of systems change at all levels. So we have a lot of different programming and activities, and I have the honor and privilege of seeking out colleagues at the ground level to help us identify the Marks of those family leaders. And so, the last 15 years have been really profound because we've been able to slowly build an infrastructure and then learn the art and science of helping parents build up their courage, initially, to come to events and then build their skills. And then get involved. And so, collectively, we've been co-creating a lot of things that we can share more a little bit later, but this has been really a life-altering experience for me to work in this particular role of partnering so closely with the people that once were receiving services from the Division to now, really see them thriving just like Mark, and become these really powerful leaders within the system here. So, I'm really happy to have this conversation about power sharing, about the journey, about all the things that need to be in place for us to do this in an authentic way Jamie Brooks: Mark Rolon: Jamie Brooks: Geraldo Pilarski: and to really leverage the family expertise, the family leadership to truly transform systems so they can better respond to the kids, the young people, the families. So, thank you. Yes, thank you both for being here. You hit on so many things Geraldo that I just want to dig more into, including the time and the patience that it takes to make change in the system like this and how really working with the agency and partnering with people's lived experiences has really made that happen. So, I'll start with you, Mark. But what is does power sharing mean to you? I guess what power-sharing really means to me is having a voice at the table that makes policy, practice, and procedure decisions about my family or families like me. Being able to make a difference. I guess that, it's a responsibility. I would say that's what power-sharing means to me. Yeah. Thank you. I love that. It's somewhat simple, right. Just being a voice at the table and part of the decisionmaking, but also, it's not always as easily done as that. Geraldo, what do you think? What would you say power sharing means to you? So, I have been reflecting a little bit about that. I think power sharing is one of the most important pieces for the child welfare system to be working on. I think there are different levels. For example, at the practice level, it means a workforce that is able to go and sit in with the family and really build a strong, trusting relationship and then facilitate change. Now that's a shift from what many families experience, which is people come in, they take over, they start telling us what to do. And many times, what they are court-ordering us to do has nothing to do with our real issues here in our family. At the program level, it means us continuously having the courage to change and transform our services, our programs, our practices. So that means bringing in people with lived experience at the table as partners to co-create and to redefine and to continuously change that. And at the system level, this power-sharing means people having roles where they are impacting decisionmaking in a real, meaningful way. And so, I see that as something that it is continuously nurtured. It takes a lot. It Mark Rolon: takes people, all of us recognizing our own power. And it takes us, also, having the right understanding about power. I found helpful, for example, the little framework that exists out there, and it helps me sort of think about power. Which is, you can approach power in a very toxic way and destructive way, and this is the power over. You can also think of power as the power from within. And today, Mark and I will share a little bit about the Better Together and a lot of the things that we do to move people that feel so disempowered, especially our caregivers and our young people, to recognize their power from within. And when that happens, when you get to that place where you say, yeah, actually, I have some power, then we can move into the power with over situations. And that is that powerful moment where now we're ready to really engage through authentic partnerships. And so to me, it is that, and the paradox of that is that the more we then move into the power with and the more we share power, then the more powerful we become and the more we're able to collectively impact the positive changes that we want to have. The worker that truly listens to a parent helps the parent sort of really feel safe so they can recognize what the challenges are. They are more likely, to, then, really gain power in a collective way with that parent to now help the family overcome the challenges versus the worker that comes in and is all-powerful. Now the family's afraid. They have very little power to change the unsafe reality of that family. To me, that's the paradox, and I have had a number of conversations with our families I think it's really really important that we understand the nature of power, whether it's toxic and destructive, and whether this is something that's going to bring life and really be transformational. So, to me, that's a little bit about what I understand for power sharing. I'd kind of like to add in too, when I say a voice at the table, to me, that voice is basically an implement of change. And there's lots of different ways that you can have that voice. There's lots of ways you can do it. I mean, it's not just sitting at a board meeting or talking to the legislator. I mean, that's part of it. But it's talking to parents and easing their way through the system. It's going to meetings and sharing your story. It's meeting with Commissioners and directors and making the recommendations. There's so many different ways that you can have your voice heard. You go to staff meetings. [laughs] I know you have to have Geraldo Pilarski: something in place so that you can do that. But I mean working with new hires. There's so many different ways to bring parent voice to the forefront. It's not just going to one meeting once a month or something like that. There's so many different ways to be involved. And Mark, I'm glad you are mentioning that. And so, to me, this has been sort of a little bit of the journey in New Hampshire like for the last 15 years. We just really understood the value and the power of having family leaders in child welfare at the table as partners in cocreating changes. But how do you do that? How do you build that infrastructure? How do you impact the culture shift that needs to happen? So I can share that, like 12 some years ago, we were really beginning this process. and I remember talking to the field staff as well as some other colleagues in the state of New Hampshire, and people would say, I cannot think of a single parent that I would be comfortable having in these settings. And the way you're describing now, it's like, OK, in New Hampshire, we have parents helping interview candidates, and serving as training partners, serving as consultants, and being with the Commissioners and directors in meetings co-creating changes and all of that. So, it is just fascinating to look back and say, well, how did we move from our colleagues within the Division, our staff, saying, I cannot think of a single parent, to this moment now that you are describing. Hey, we're impacting real change. So, one of the things that we did… And I think Mark, I'm going to be really curious to hear your thoughts on the Better Together. So we brought to New Hampshire Better Together curriculum, which is a two day’s intensive training where we bring the parents and the staff and community partners and it is a profound way to really look at what's happening. One of the core modules of that is called the puzzle. And you have done the puzzle with people. We literally do a puzzle. And what that stands for is the power differential. So the first step is we’ve got to have conversations, we’ve got to acknowledge that in child welfare, there is this tremendous power differential. How do we work through that? So you have been there. You've done puzzles with people. You have engaged in those conversations and doing the puzzle and then debriefing and really acknowledging the power differential. And then having those dialogues really is kind of a really important step. Mark Rolon: Geraldo Pilarski: So, I'm curious. You recently attended an in-person Better Together in the northern region, and you saw that. You were part of that. So, thoughts on that? And how is that helping parents? What I really liked about the puzzle it's not just parents because we have staff. When the shoe is on the other foot, and the staff is put in the position that the parents are usually in with the pressures, and there's no help. [laughs] It really makes a difference. I think that the main purpose of this puzzle is to change the perspective, to change the way you look at a situation, to change the way you deal with people. It's one thing to ask a family to do this, do this, do that. And that family may or may not have the capacity to be able to complete those steps. If you turn it around and put the worker in that situation where all of a sudden they have to complete that stuff, it makes them sit back and think. Wow, maybe there's another way we can work together to get this accomplished. And it's a pretty powerful exercise. Yeah. So, it starts there. It starts with that recognition. And it's that shifting role and kind of grounding staff, and really understanding the realities of families. And so, what's happening there is just a ton of things that are happening, in terms of people connecting dots. The paradox of that is once we start really unpacking that puzzle together, everybody gains power because we're now sharing power. I have seen parents say I'm finding healing now. I'm really understanding the complexity of the child welfare work. I have heard from staff saying, I'm never going to approach another assessment the same way. It's like there is a real change there that happens. And one of the most important things that I think that is happening for family leaders is that I have seen parents, and there has been like over 800 of them in the last 12 years that have come through that process. It's always so moving to me to see them moving from a place of potential shame, anger, hurt to a place of healing. Recognizing that actually they had done something really powerful for their family and reclaiming their own story. And coming out of that analysis, that process, that dialogue with a tremendous power. And I'm going to say one example that really still moves my heart today and warms my heart is one parent that came. Now, this is the first day. She's driving home, and she's saying to us on the second day, I'm crying. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Mark Rolon: Tell me more about that. And she’s saying, but Geraldo, it was the cry of joy because, for the first time, I felt like I'm human again. And I let go of that shame. I realized that actually I did something really important for my family. I made all these changes. This parent has grown as a strong, strong leader. But I heard her recently, and she said without that Better Together, without coming to that experience, reclaiming my own story, I would have not taken a career path within Child Welfare. Today, she is the director of our field support model in New Hampshire. This is somebody that is sitting with Commissioners and directors and is really on that advisory board and really helping at a very high level us making important changes. And to think that a lot of that started there. And many, many, many of our parents, just like you, Mark, who are thriving. And you are a powerful leader in New Hampshire, a powerful voice. Many of them came through that. And we call that the paradox of vulnerability. The Better Together is so, so special. People feel so safe there, and people open up, and people talk. It's like the real deal. I have seen parents becoming really vulnerable to say this is what was really going on. There is that sense of accountability, and then there is that sense of saying, hey, these past decisions, what happened, what people did to us, and all that hurt, doesn't need to dictate where my family's going to go, where I'm going now. To me, this is sharing power. This is one of the ways that New Hampshire is sharing power is. Creating those safe spaces is really enabling and facilitating so people can reclaim their lives, reclaim their humanity and then be able to really thrive. But I am curious about you. Like how was that for you and what have you seen? I know you've seen so many parents in that setting. Currently, I belong to the Better Together team, I’m on a Father Engagement Action team, I’m on the Juvenile Justice Reform Commission. I belong to Parent Partners of New England. I belong to three different subcommittees. I probably attend regularly about 10 other groups. None of it, none of it would have been possible without that first meeting in Better Together. It is so important. Like I said, I was such an angry father when I came in there. And I was suspicious. I was wary. I had a perception… I never had a very good perception of DCYF. And then, when my son went through it, it didn't get any better. So to have me come to this initial meeting [blows] there were so many Geraldo Pilarski: thoughts going through my head, but I went. I went to that meeting. Now, that meeting, right away, we were told it was a safe space. You could say whatever you wanted. You didn't have to say anything. You could just show up and listen. There was no pressure. That was very important, number one. Number two, there was a lot of other parents there. That is super important. You have to have somebody there that a parent can relate to. Doesn't have to have the same story. It doesn't have to be the same situation, but it's a parent there that's had an issue with the system and wants to find out somebody that they can relate. Third, you have staff there, and there has to be tools. Whether it's Ice Breakers or like the puzzle that, he said. Things that you can do together to ease the conversation, to help people be more comfortable. And going through those initial meetings, that was it, I was a changed person. I went from being an angry dad to knowing that, hey, these people are interested in what I have to say. Now, I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but if they're going to keep inviting me, I'm going to keep going. And I'm going to see where it goes. And it's just [blows] it's a feeling. It's a feeling that's hard to explain. Just a complete 360 change. It's from mad to encouraged to yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to be a part of this. And I don't know who came up with this program. I don't know if it was KC programs, I know Geraldo had a big part to do that, but they all played their part. Geraldo called me ahead of time. First, my JP, that my son's probation officer had a little meeting to tell me a little bit about it, but I kind of was like, whatever, you want me to go to another meeting. But then Geraldo called me. He had more of an in-depth conversation, and I said, OK, well, I'll go. And then I went in there, and right off the bat, I met two other fathers that I clicked with right away. And it made all the difference in the world. And once you get your foot in the door, I think you'll find that if you want to put in the work, there's no shortage of work. [laughs] Yeah, Mark, as you talk about that, you came to mind another parent that went through this process. And I recall she continued to come back and be part of our programming and be a partner at the table. And there was one day that she came and she's emotional. She's in tears. She's saying I just want to say that 20 years of therapy didn't do to me what being part of this Better Together, the Parent Partner Program has done to me. And I look at her, Mark Rolon: Geraldo Pilarski: and I said, OK, how do you know. Because now I'm moved. This is extremely powerful for someone to say. And she said, you know, I went home, and I hugged my daughter. And as I'm hugging her, she hugged me back, and she's hugging me stronger. And then she says, Mommy, I like this hug. It feels different. And this mom started to cry, and she said, I knew right and then that, for the first time, I was emotionally available to my daughter. So, it is this. And I think Child Welfare states and jurisdictions have a responsibility as well as a huge opportunity to create these safe spaces for people to come for staff, for parents, and community partners, and all of us, to unpack these challenges. To look at power differential. To look at what is happening to us and to look for possibilities, and to co-create solutions. That is a real possibility here and also a real responsibility. There are different ways to do that. We, New Hampshire, brought in this particular process because we were panicking when that staff said, I can not think of a single parent. So, doing that has impacted our agency culture. Today, we have parents at every level, as you know. So, I'm curious. You are seeing parents doing all kinds of things, and you yourself are involved in so many things. What are some of the roles here in New Hampshire that either you have been a part of or you've seen parents taking on that, for you, really signify that real, meaningful sharing power? Like, we're not just talking the talk. Really, here there is some real, meaningful sharing power. Alright. I also wanted to add that, after that, through my time with this program, not only have I been able to help implement change. Let's call it that. But I have become a better father. Because I'm learning as I go along too. Because when I jumped into the system, I didn't know anything about Child Welfare other than what my lived experience was, and I learned some of the guidelines when my son was on probation. But the more I'm involved, the more I learn all these different concepts. And I think I'm a better dad, a better person now for him. Hey, Mark, I just want to say that's really, really, really powerful. And you know what, the 800 plus parents, the 4,000 plus staff, over a thousand community partners, that's what everybody's says. The transformational power of us coming together, honoring each other's humanity, engaging that process two intensive days where we Mark Rolon: unpack those challenges. Everybody's saying that. The staff are saying I have become a better staff. I really need that. And that's what we call the paradox of vulnerability. The more we're willing to command and really recognize our shortcomings. I mean, you haven't seen a staff there defending crazy practices that are disempowering parents. Right? What you have seen is they become very curious, and they want to learn how can I do this differently. We recently had this Core Better Together for newly hired staff. And there was one staff there, and that was exactly her question. This is sharing power. It's all of us coming to this space, willing to be transformed. And the paradox of that is the more we do that and over time, the more powerful we all become. The more we regain our own power within, the more we are substituting the power over with the power with, the sharing power. The collective power. and to me, that's wonderful. But I'm sorry. I interrupted you. I know you were on a roll there with your thinking. [laughter] It's all good. Let me see. I do so many things. I suppose I should start off by saying I kept coming. I kept sharing my story. But one day, I was at home, and I had only been involved with the Better Together and the Father Engagement Action team a few months, and I got an email from the Office of Public Information. They were putting out a brochure that was going to go to parents, explaining them their rights and things of that nature. Processes if they got involved in the system. And they wanted my input. I looked at it, and because I'm on the Juvenile Justice Reform Commission, I happen to have a copy of the Senate bill on me. So, I knew what the brochure was trying to explain to the parents. I kind of read through it, and to me, it was very nice, but it didn't say any of the things I thought it should have said, so I replied. [laughs] I said, look, I think this is a good first draft, but I think you should list this and this and this and this and make sure that the parents have this information. They replied back to me and totally rewrote the whole brochure. It was at that point. I will tell you now that I said I am 100 percent in. These people are listening. They made the changes, and that was a little example. Since that time, there's so many different ways. In just the two-plus years that I've been there, I've seen programs such as Strength To Succeed, Road Maps To Reunification. Programs created through the input of parents for parents, for Jamie Brooks: families go from pilot programs to now part of the service array. There's CBVS, Community-Based Voluntary Services for aftercare. After your case is finished, you sometimes… I have a colleague that loves to say you know it's when your case ends is when the real work begins. The parents have to have somewhere that they can help them during that time when DCYF is no longer in their life. We need resources. We need extra support. These are programs that were created with the input from parents. Now, if you want to get into the training aspects, I do something called an investigation simulation, where parents such as myself, we have a couple other fathers, some other mothers we play a simulated role as a father being investigated or a mother is being investigated and it's that complicated case involving children and drugs and all this stuff. But it's required training for new hires, and it gives that new hire a chance to come into a real-world situation. I will tell you from my point of view, I take my role… I know some of the other parents do. We take that role real seriously, very seriously. We want that new hire to have an authentic, real-world experience. And I have gotten feedback after these simulations where they went, that was one of the most powerful things I ever had to do, and I will never forget that out of all my training. There's so many. We have advanced practicums. We have forums where we give speeches. I am a participant in Job Fest. I sit on a panel with one or two other people where we interview prospective new hires. So, I know that New Hampshire has made a commitment to introduce parent's involvement into the system to staff, potential new hires from day one. They show you before you're even hired that, hey, we work with parents, and you better be willing to do that. We're changing. This is a movement. There's so many things. Can I? I just want to say, I think you guys have given so many amazing examples, and I think as a listener, hearing some of the outcomes you've had. Parents feeling so empowered to be leaders in their state, and for staff to feel just satisfaction in their job that they're actually able to help a family do things differently. Which is what I think they all go into wanting, and how that could really lead to maybe not as much turnover if people have satisfaction in their Geraldo Pilarski: job. And so I'm curious as listening to all this, I've seen places that want to do this, and they sort of start and falter. They may not understand what it's going to look like, how it's all going to play out. It might be a bit messy in the beginning. Are there things you could think of, especially you, Geraldo, when this Better Together or any of these other things were starting up in New Hampshire, what was it that really had people buying into it? And were there people who were somewhat resistant, and then you saw maybe change over time and them seeing it work? So, any examples about maybe how it was challenging at times to get these kinds of things started? Because I think a lot of places would love to be able to do this to the level you're talking about. Yeah. So that's a great question. So, this was like 12 years ago. We're starting this process. I had been with the State Division now for three years. So I've been in service now for 15 years. I have been a district office regional supervisor. So, I was overseeing like a team of 60 staff. And we had begun to test some of the things that could help us improve family engagement. And one of the things that I was doing was having a family engagement team where we're bringing in young people and family, parents, to really help us understand that. And I remember looking at a mother and asking, so, what happened with her kids. She started crying. She said I went on a binge day after day. And I asked her what could we have done differently? And she said if I could see my kids. So what we did right there and then we said, OK, let's test this idea. It's not a million dollars idea. You know it doesn't cost that much. It is simply shifting the way we work with families. And we work it out. There was a research worker that was working with foster parents. She immediately said, hey, Geraldo, I would love to be part of that change piloting this. And as I place a child with the foster family, I'm just going to tell them, bring the children tomorrow. and we're going to tell this assessment worker, OK, you are going to tell the parents, please come to the office. You're going to see the kids. And we started testing that. And it was like, Oh my gosh. So, we are now moving ahead in New Hampshire. We really want to improve family engagement. And the Division Director, Dan, asked me. He said, Geraldo, I know you love Nashua and the district office, the work you are doing, but I need somebody here to really Jamie Brooks: create a program for parents here in New Hampshire. We need the family voice. And I was so honored to be invited to do that. As I started working with the staff and my colleagues in the field, and I said, we're going to be bringing parents. That's when I heard from, from a staff. “I cannot think of a single parent.” And there was a lot of resistance, as you said. So this is a little bit of the background, and this is when we said we need to conduct an Agency Readiness Assessment. And it was a really wise decision because we brought in consultants from outside, created a safe space, and really engaged the staff around what were those fears. And there were a lot of legit fears. Like we don't want to traumatize parents. Are we really ready for that? Do we have methodologies to create a safe space? This is when we then approached, KC, said do you know of anything? And they recommended Better Together, which has become a really powerful methodology. So do an Agency Readiness Assessment. Try to really bring in a method, a process that is going to make it safe is going to bring healing. And then, we proceeded to work on really building a strong infrastructure. We call that the Parent Partner Program, which is the larger umbrella. And it has a budget. I oversee that budget. So we provide compensation to all of our parents. So, parents like Mark come in. They become vendors for the state. And then they are contributing. So, we want to honor their time, their unique expertise. So you want to build that infrastructure. We have a Family Empowerment Team in every regional office. Those teams are now really moving into like recruiting the new parents. So, you have to have a process to continuously identify prospective parent leaders. Family leaders in Child Welfare. And then ensure that you provide them the appropriate spaces to reclaim their voices, find their power from within. And then we develop policy. We created a number of roles, and we continue to do that as the agency continues to evolve. And so, this is where I would start. It is bringing in what is called a capacity-building approach, looking at all those dimensions of capacity. And then bringing people in. bringing people in and really engaging in a co-creation process. Thank you for that. Mark, what about you? You were going to jump in anyway, but I think you might have come in, and Mark Rolon: Geraldo Pilarski: Mark Rolon: it was a bit more established there. But other places that you saw maybe some people not really understanding the role with people with lived experience at the table. How did you… Well, there's always people like that especially… I know the program now had its roots over a decade ago, but we still have a lot of long-term workers that are having a little trouble adjusting to the system. And they are a little reluctant to change. I wanted to mention really quick that we do receive a small stipend for our meetings, but it's not anything that I could live off of. It's a very nice surprise when it comes in the mail, and I appreciate it, but I don't do this for the stipend. The stipend, as far as I'm concerned, is a token of their appreciation, that type of a gesture. So I don't make a salary. [laughs] I just wanted to touch on that. But yeah, change. Change takes a while. Change, you have to start with baby steps. And baby steps, repetition, and slowly. Like, I just recently started going to staff meetings. And when I went to that staff meeting, I'll tell you what, I probably recognized three faces out of the 20 that were in the room, and I go to a lot of meetings. So there's so much room for growth, but you stay at it. You stay at it. I'm sure ten years ago, they could not imagine that they would be at the place that they are now. I mean, two years ago, I couldn't have imagined if you had said that I was doing this job, I would have laughed. I would have said not a snowball's chance in, you know. [laughs] And now I sit down at a table with the Commissioner of DCYF and judges, state police, and lawyers. And it's because I wanted to be involved. It's because I came to the initial meeting and I said, wow, I have a chance to make a difference. And I decided to pick up the ball and run with it. So, these are all the ways that we kind of really strived to get to that authentic power sharing. But I'm curious, Mark, if you could think back in the several years now you have been involved. What were the examples when you felt maybe like tokenized, and it wasn't real versus the times when hey, this is real? You just mentioned one example that it seems this was real power sharing. So, thoughts on that? Well, like I said, it was a couple months before I really thought that I was really making a difference. But the more I came… You know, when you go to a meeting, you can Jamie Brooks: tell if people are engaged. If they're there to just hear you speak or if they're paying attention and they're listening, and they follow up with questions. There's different attitudes there. And I could tell people were paying attention when I came. That was encouraging. I have an example. Like I said, I sit on the Juvenile Justice Reform Commission and not just there. The same thing with when I do my work with the state. I'm treated as a colleague. I'm not a parent that's there to visit and give my input. I am a colleague. I am an equal partner at that table. And it was the respect that I was given that I knew I was being taken seriously. I can't remember… I should say there is so much I am learning. [laughs] I am also looking at this as a learning opportunity. I don't have degrees in sociology or any of that. I'm learning how the system works, from the tiers of intervention to how it works in the House and the Senate bills and budget management. All of this stuff I'm getting a crash course in. so I try to measure myself, and I'm never afraid to ask questions. But I'm not afraid to wait and see if it's answered a little more down the line. [laughs] But I think it's that mutual respect that I have received. I had one meeting where an executive secretary came up to me and said I'm so glad you are sitting at this table because you're not afraid to tell it like it is. And a lot of different people with their professional crowd around them, they're a little measured in what they decide to say. My first year, or it wasn't even a year because I started in, I think, November. And two months later, that December came around, and I was asked to speak at the end-of-theyear celebration. I remember saying, three months ago, I was a dad at home, just not knowing what to do dealing with my son, and today I'm questioning the Commissioner of DCYF on budget concerns. I mean, it's unbelievable. [laughs] The opportunity is there. You have to give it a chance. Does everything always go the way you want? No. You get pushback. Pushback is normal pushback. It's healthy. It helps you. I might say something, but when I say something, I try and make sure I have a why am I saying this. I have some backup with whatever I'm suggesting or saying. But it's the respect. It's a mutual respect that keeps me coming. It's so amazing. I think you guys have said so many stories and anecdotes and things that's just so powerful to listen to. And I think my final sort of question or thing to think about… You could both maybe comment on is, how do you define the success or measure if it's successful? It Geraldo Pilarski: doesn't maybe always match up with what funders may typically be looking for. But we know the success is there because of the parent leaders and all the work that you're doing. And I was thinking about your comment about 20 years of therapy didn't get me what being respected in this position did. and I know that to be so true for self-worth is to have a voice at the table. So, what do you think about what comes to mind with measuring success or how you just define that in general? So, Jamie, I think that's really, really important. So I'm always asking myself and my colleagues and our family leads in child welfare, our community partners this important question and saying, OK, how are the lives of children, youth, and families changing? Like, let's look at what's changing for them, and is it moving the needle? Are families now describing more empowerment experiences versus disempowering experiences? Are the young people feeling heard? What is changing in their lives? And are parents also feeling like Mark? You mentioned, Mark, I feel like I'm a better parent now. What does that look like? And that they have this space to really examine that. Are our relationships changing? And so, there are different ways that we can be looking at this most fundamental question. Are the lives of children, youth, and families becoming better? Are families stronger? We can look at some of our data. And Mark mentioned an important program that we co-created with our Family Leaders here. It's called the Strength to Succeed. This is our peer support model. And there are recovery coaches that are assigned to parents with substance-related disorders and helping them reunify. And once we started running the data, I remember our data colleagues in the state being like, wow, Geraldo. We had more reunifications. And as we connected with our folks running permanency for the state, they said, in every case now, we're seeing that the one factor that supported that is the peer support. It's having the Parent Partners, the recovery coaches connected. So, clearly, this really galvanized. And I remember people saying, OK, we’ve got to expand this peer support model. And indeed we did. We moved that earlier into the assessment phase. And Jamie, I'm going to be really, very honest. In my many years working in the social work field in different countries… I worked in Brazil, Japan, and then in Chicago, Illinois, and then here, in New Hampshire. Throughout my all career, the one element that I see is the Mark Rolon: Geraldo Pilarski: powerful driver for transformations has been the family voice that shared power with the people that we serve. That's really the powerful force for change and transformation. So that's kind of my perspective. It always warms my heart when I hear Mark talking and saying it's been a couple of years now. A little bit over two years, but I already see so many changes. And I already see those things. So I'm curious, Mark, if you want to elaborate a little bit on what are those changes and how do you measure that we're actually succeeding and moving in the right direction? I think when I came to Better Together, all I want to do is if I can help one family. If I can stop them from going through what I went through, then everything I do is a success. Now, change is huge. It's a huge project. And in my opinion, you have to have buy-in from the top to reform from the bottom up and change everything. And I think, right now, that system is doing that. have seen change. I've seen recommendations of parents. Parents that came in with stories. Out of those stories came ideas. And out of those ideas became policy. And that is huge. I have a vision for DCYF because we have a terrible public opinion. I hope someday you call the fire department because there's a fire. Call the Police Department if somebody breaks into your house. I hope that if you need help, people can just pick up the phone and call DCYF. I want it to be a strong community service. That's my vision, and I'm hoping that everything we do… and it seems to be going that way. Trajectoring that way. [laughs] I don't think trajectoring's a word. But headed that way. And that's why I keep coming, and that's why I do what I do. And I'm hoping for the best. [laughs] Thank you, Mark. I'm inspired by you, by all the other leaders. And this gives me also the motivation like all of you collectively also give me more power. And so I have a practice here in New Hampshire where I'm invited to a meeting, maybe with the division director or folks. And then I immediately say, OK, so you know, I'm bringing with me at least one parent because that's when we really make it real. And to me, that's also like my own way of kind of sharing power and ensuring that I'm not just speaking for parents, but I'm creating a space to really elevate that voice. That expertise. So, thank you. Jamie Brooks: Geraldo Pilarski: [Phone Ringing] Tony Parsons: Jamie Brooks: Tony Parsons: Jamie Brooks: Tony Parons: Yes, well, thank you both so much. Um I think we could definitely talk about a lot more here, but I appreciate your time. I am inspired hearing about all the amazing work that you continue to do. I loved hearing about how people with lived experience are being integrated. From the interview to the peer supports to simulations and trainings, it's amazing. So hopefully, you both will continue to do that good work in New Hampshire. And I'm sure we will see each other again soon. Thank you. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Mark. Hey, Jamie. Hi, Tony. You know, that was a really cool conversation you had with Mark and Geraldo. Oh, I know it was great. They had an awesome dialogue going. It was so funny because every time I was thinking of a question to ask them, they would answer it. So it was a lot of listening, but it was. It was so awesome to hear about everything happening in New Hampshire. Oh, definitely like it sounded like they were having a really good time which always comes out and I think they're friends right? So I think that definitely made it better, but it was just really neat to hear from a father, right? And somebody worked with fathers because I don't have kids, so I can't imagine what they might have gone through trying to do some of that work. But it was a couple of things that Mark really said. I was like, wow, so simple but needed to be said. And I want to get this right. I quoted this. He says it's baby steps, repetition and going slowly, right. This idea that when we're engaging parents, just like when we're engaging young people, it’s going to take time, right. And we can't expect big things overnight. And we're going to have to go back and keep trying and keep trying like, something that I think is so intuitive. But I think we often overlook because when you turn like a magical age and you're considered an adult, I'm 28 will be 29 next month. And I'm “an adult”. But people don't realize it takes a lot to Jamie Brooks: Tony Parsons: Jamie Brooks: Tony Parsons: scaffold someone to where they need to be to really have the impact that they should have. I really thought that was really, really nice. And then Geraldo kind of teed it up too by saying it's the infrastructure, right? What policies, procedures, plans do we have in place to make engagement easier and really make parents feel comfortable? Because I think in the child welfare system, we do a very bad job at making parents feel comfortable. You know, there's this almost just inherent bias against parents of any form. And so to hear two people who have lived through some of this and are working in this space really speak truth to power. It was like, yes. So if I ever become a parent. And I have to engage in some of these places. You know, I feel like I have a little more of, like, a blueprint of, like, how I could go in and be in that space. So I really appreciated that. Yeah, it was so great to just hear. I think you know that it has to be both sides. You need the infrastructure, you need the little things you need to make it easier for parents to do better. And that the same time providing the parents of the support that they need to make the changes that they want to make. The idea of empowering parents to have a voice, to sit at the table and feel respected and how that can really change a person's life. And how they feel about themselves, you know, and in turn, how their parent, how they are in the world. And it’s so important. So I was just so excited to spend time with them. I could have listened to them for several hours. Oh yeah. They have so much to say and so much experience. Yeah. So it was just, it was really, really great. Yeah, no, it was fantastic. And I think you touched on, it's this respect piece, I think that was an underlying theme. It's like we have to have respect no matter who we're approaching, no matter how we're approaching, but especially parents, right? It's a group within the system that kind of has never gotten it in any meaningful capacity. So I think that was really huge. And so, yeah, such a great conversation. I really hope that we can either have them back or they can do a follow up because I really want to hear more about how this program works. And you know, maybe other states can learn something, right. And they Betsy Lerner: can kind of implement it too, because the more that we share, best ideas and best practices, I think the stronger our system becomes. Such a great conversation and to all of our listeners out there, I hope you learn something, you know, I hope you were. You walk away from this kind of inspired thinking. What can I do? Whether I am a parent or whether I am an administrator? What can I do to better authentically engage with people? And if this is your first time listening, super grateful you joined us today, but go back and listen to some of our earlier episodes. Share them. Talk to them with your friends. Right. We only share power when we're sharing understanding. And that's what we're aiming to do is to share some understanding through this podcast series. And so we hope that you'll come back and that together we can make a stronger child welfare system. Thanks for listening. And we'll hear you next time. 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